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Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by jollybean on Saturday August 07, 2021 @06:10AM (#28097380)
"... the most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize something that should not exist."

Wise words.

" if a product is reaching the end of a production line with a high acceptance rate, there is no need for in-process testing."

This is really interesting, probably controversial, but worth a lot of contemplation and I wonder how this could apply to software.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by BaronSamedi on Saturday August 07, 2021 @06:26AM (#28097453)
I thought his statement that all requirements should have a name assigned to them was very good as well.
Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by hulitu on Saturday August 07, 2021 @09:57AM (#28098614)
> " if a product is reaching the end of a production line with a high acceptance rate, there is no need for in-process testing."

> This is really interesting, probably controversial, but worth a lot of contemplation and I wonder how this could apply to software.

Depends on the field. In windows the user will test it with no repercursion to the developer. In other industries every bug which is discovered by customer is expensive.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by tjpnz on Saturday August 07, 2021 @07:18AM (#28097685)
>This is really interesting, probably controversial, but worth a lot of contemplation and I wonder how this could apply to software.

I was wondering that too. Is it the same as deleting unit tests?

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by maxerickson on Saturday August 07, 2021 @07:28AM (#28097731)
It's like removing bounds checking (a runtime safety feature).

A manufacturing line is more analogous to software during use than it is to software during creation.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by nickik on Saturday August 07, 2021 @11:26AM (#28099269)
I think its kind of like when in Clojure, you only activate validation on the boundaries of your program in production, and disable the validation in the internals of the program.

Because a factory would still test its input, or the input would have been tested by the supplier.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by jollybean on Saturday August 07, 2021 @08:44AM (#28098190)
I've noticed that my unit tests are really useful to work out the bugs, but then they might get stale.

Once something is tested and worked out, it's like they become a little redundant.

In software of course re-iterating the tests is maybe cost free, whereas in physical production 'unit tests' introduce maybe non-negligible costs so the 'advantage' in not having to repeat them possibly makes a difference.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by sschueller on Saturday August 07, 2021 @03:52PM (#28101308)
Why is every 3rd sentence or so out of Elon some cliché phrase? "design is the easy part" etc.

It's extremely distracting as if he is dodging actually getting into details. Almost like he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Re:Starbase Tour and Interview with Elon Musk by nickik on Saturday August 07, 2021 @05:34PM (#28102042)
No, because that what he actually think the right answer is, he views these things at the fundamental constraint. He is perfectly able to answer in detail when that the questions as he multiple times did in this video.