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Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by treis on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:28PM (#28093995)
What exactly is your point?
Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by wbsss4412 on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:36PM (#28094054)
A chaotic system is generally defined to mean one in which small changes to the inputs lead to large variations in the outputs. So your reply noting that it’s only a 1% change doesn’t contradict the previous statements.
Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by treis on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:51PM (#28094173)
>A chaotic system is generally defined to mean on in which small changes to the inputs lead to large variations in the outputs.

A large variation, yes. A direct relationship between a small increase in input and a corresponding large increase in a specific output, no.

Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by wbsss4412 on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:53PM (#28094189)
It depends on the system, I’m not familiar enough with climate science to state anything about the particular case at hand, but chaotic systems can be deterministic.
Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by treis on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:13PM (#28094331)
>It depends on the system

Sure, which makes the blanket statement the GP made incorrect:

>Putting more energy into a meta-stable chaotic system will greatly increase the number of extremes across the board

Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by wbsss4412 on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:53PM (#28094611)
I think you’re being a bit pedantic, in context GP was clearly referring to the climate, not making blanket statements about all chaotic systems.

In either case, a 1% change in energy input is always going to be a big deal with regards to an energy dependent chaotic system.

Re:Atlantic Ocean currents weaken, signalling big weather ch... by enraged_camel on Friday August 06, 2021 @09:35PM (#28094867)
You're being pedantic.

Chaotic systems, in essence, are known for its unpredictability. Watch this to get an idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEjZd-AvPco