Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens a backdoor to your life

Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by Klonoar on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:35PM (#28080232)

I think your points are mostly accurate, and that's why I led with the bit about the EFF calling attention to it. Something like this shouldn't happen without scrutiny.

The only thing I'm going to respond to otherwise is this:

>Fourth, but that's only because I slightly am a maniac, how can anyone unilaterally decide to waste the computing power, battery life and data plan of a device I paid for without my say so? (probably one of my main gripes with ads)

This is how iOS and apps in general work - you don't really control the amount of data you're using, and you never did. Downloading a changeset of a hash database is not a big deal; I'd wager you get more push notifications with data payloads in a day than this would be.

Battery life... I've never found Apple's on-device approaches to be the culprit of battery issues for my devices.

I think I'd add to your list of points: what happens when Google inevitably copies this in six months? There really is no competing platform that comes close.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by falcolas on Thursday August 05, 2021 @06:39PM (#28080978)

> what happens when Google inevitably copies this in six months? There really is no competing platform that comes close.

Then you have to make a decision about what matters more. Convenience and features, or privacy and security.

I've made that decision myself. I'll spend a bit more time working with less-than-perfect OSS software and hardware to maintain my privacy and security.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by ElFitz on Friday August 06, 2021 @05:43AM (#28085034)

> This is how iOS and apps in general work - you don't really control the amount of data you're using, and you never did. Downloading a changeset of a hash database is not a big deal; I'd wager you get more push notifications with data payloads in a day than this would be.

Oh, definitely. But I am given the ability to remove those apps, or to disable these notifications, and I consider the ones I leave to be of some value to me? This? On my phone? It’s literal spyware.

But, as I said, it's only because I am a maniac regarding how tools should behave.

The point you add about Google, however, is a real issue. I’ve seen some people mention LineageOS and postmarketOS. But isn’t really a solution for most people.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by Klonoar on Friday August 06, 2021 @02:28PM (#28091113)

To be clear: don't use iCloud Photos and you won't get compared to hashes.

This is, currently, the same opt-out of hash checking anyway, as it's already checked on the server.

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