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Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by throw0101a on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:05PM (#28079831)
> No one likes their house burned down.

Then trim vegetation from your house at least 30'/10m, and keep things tidy out to at least 100'/30m:

* https://www.readyforwildfire.org/prepare-for-wildfire/get-re...

* https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/Fire-causes-and-risks/...

Make sure there are no dries leaves or pine needles gathered in places, ensure that your attic vent is properly screened from embers, that flammable furniture (e.g., cushions) is not laying about too close to the house.

Lots of simple, preventative measures that people can do to increase their odds.

Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by Retric on Thursday August 05, 2021 @08:18PM (#28081745)
That’s really not enough, forest fires are basically distributed denial of service attack. A tiny spark which wouldn’t be a significant issue on it’s own can destroy a house when nobody is there actively protecting it.

Clearing vegetation and material selection can make a huge difference, just don’t expect a normal house to be ok anywhere near a fire.

Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by throw0101a on Thursday August 05, 2021 @11:00PM (#28082824)
Embers are actually the things that cause the most damage:

* https://www.intermap.com/risks-of-hazard-blog/2015/03/does-y...

* https://ibhs.org/ibhs-news-releases/embers-cause-up-to-90-of...

It seems that by dealing with anything on/near your structure that can be ignited by them can reduce risk by quite a lot.

Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by lazide on Thursday August 05, 2021 @10:04PM (#28082498)
A big enough fire, which is what you get with tall, overcrowded trees, will set many houses on fire from hundreds of yards away - even if no embers or anything else land on the house.

It is really amazing the amount of heat released, and how quickly, in one of these fires.

Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by throw0101a on Thursday August 05, 2021 @10:49PM (#28082768)
The three main sources of ignition during a wildfire are embers, direct flame contact, and radiant heat. This is why the FPA and others have the three different zones, of particular distances, where they recommend doing particular things. House can survive large quantities of radiant heat:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq6wy_tffpg

Quite often what happens with radiant heat is that it breaks a window, which then allows embers to go into the house and set it alight. Embers are actually the things that cause the most damage:

* https://www.intermap.com/risks-of-hazard-blog/2015/03/does-y...

* https://ibhs.org/ibhs-news-releases/embers-cause-up-to-90-of...

On the other hand radiant heat often kills people the most (e.g., through heat stroke).

Re:Years of fighting every wildfire helped fuel the Western ... by oceanplexian on Friday August 06, 2021 @04:27PM (#28092346)
It’s also pretty wasteful when you think about it. How much energy could we harness if we simply allowed logging and used the wood for heating, construction, or electricity.