94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by giantg2 on Thursday August 05, 2021 @02:39PM (#28077759)

I'm saying that the parent's comment about pushing for herd immunity through both means is not exactly true. We are moving towards herd immunity by both methods unintentionally, but the only method being pushed is vaccination. So much so, that antibodies derived from infection are not even being counted, but rather those persons are being told they need the vaccine anyways.

It's a bit like measuring outputs rather than outcomes.

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Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by tshaddox on Thursday August 05, 2021 @02:45PM (#28077840)

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Are you saying that we should be “pushing for herd immunity through both means” as in we should be pushing for vaccinations and pushing people to spread the disease as fast as possible?

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Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by giantg2 on Thursday August 05, 2021 @03:15PM (#28078197)

I'm simply stating the claim that US is pushing for herd immunity through the choice of infection of vaccination is not true. That only vaccination is being pushed, and it is not exactly a free choice if you're going to lose your job or be denied service over it.

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Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by zamalek on Thursday August 05, 2021 @02:56PM (#28077962)

The vaccine results in more robust immunity.[1] That is an outcome.

[1]: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103825?query=TOC

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Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by giantg2 on Thursday August 05, 2021 @03:09PM (#28078122)

What this shows is that a single dose administered to a previously infected person provides greater antibody production than a non infected person's recieving two doses. The study also says that they are unsure if those higher levels affect a patient's ability to get sick or transmit the virus.

What I would be looking for is a study showing that prior infection has x% effectiveness as measured against a vaccine on a similar timeline.

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Re:94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows by criticaltinker on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:51PM (#28080434)

I concur, thanks for helping folks stay informed.

GP's takeaway that "The vaccine results in more robust immunity" is completely unsupported by the provided source.

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