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Re:Why don't tech companies pay their engineers to stay? by mjburgess on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @11:37AM (#28050485)
> For example, I genuinely don't know if software developers have more of an impact than the product designers

Explains why this mentality exists. Middle management cannot see the impact.

Re:Why don't tech companies pay their engineers to stay? by nine_zeros on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:00PM (#28050812)
Truly, sometimes I wonder if ICs should be allowed to fire managers if managers can't see what brings value.
Re:Why don't tech companies pay their engineers to stay? by nostrademons on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:28PM (#28051126)
Software engineers are allowed to fire managers. It's called quitting and becoming a consultant. It often leads to a large pay bump, but also comes along with assuming all the bullshit that your manager does for you, so it's not for everyone.
Re:Why don't tech companies pay their engineers to stay? by nine_zeros on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:33PM (#28051178)
No. Firing is not the same as becoming a consultant. ICs should be able to fire managers, along with their health benefits. Let managers take recourse as consultants.