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Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by bingohbangoh on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @09:06AM (#28048663)
People also wonder how african americans can be so hesitant to take the vaccines here in the US when every school kid learns about the Tuskegee Syphilis Study...
Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by PoignardAzur on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:29PM (#28051136)
I get that the Tuskegee study is a huge influence on vaccine hesitancy, but I think its impact is emotional, not rational.

If you look at the fact, the big controversy was that the study participants were given zero treatment, while their doctors were telling them at they were being treated. At the time the study began, this was barely reasonable, because there were some strong indication that syphilis treatments caused more harm than good and the doctors wanted to measure it.

Ten years later, when penicilin had been long confirmed to be effective against syphillis, this was beyond monstrous.

But still, I don't think this is a reasonable argument against vaccination. The black people in the experiments weren't being injected mystery substances. The core of the scandals is that they were given placebos without their consent. I don't see how one could reasonably look at this and say "Okay, I'm never going to accept a vaccine ever". You're basically forcing yourself into the same experiment the government put these people in.

Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by kian on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @01:54PM (#28052078)
It's never reasonable to lie to people about the medical care being given. It's a reasonable argument against vaccination because they were lied to about what they were given.

If you wish to narrowly interpret this as purely 'they didn't give treatment when they could', that's one way of looking at it - but obviously anyone who is refusing a vaccine because of it is looking at this instead as I cannot trust a word these people say about the medical treatments they are giving me, because if for a moment they thought they could benefit at my expense in so doing, they have historically demonstrated that they will.

Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by Redoubts on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @09:07AM (#28048672)
Every school kid is absolutely not taught this.
Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by stjohnswarts on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @01:32PM (#28051876)
In public school they are taught this. Maybe not is some private schools I suppose. It's part of the standard curriculum
Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by Redoubts on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @08:07PM (#28055809)
> In public school they are taught this.

Very much not true in general

Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by atatatat on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @10:24AM (#28049561)
Many black ones are...school or otherwise.
Re:CIA’s fake Hepatitis B vaccine program in Pakistan helped... by forcry on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @01:02PM (#28051541)
Also things like the following, appear to be just as bad..

> There are early episodes in which radioactive fallout is dismissed as not a major health concern, as something that could be handled very easily. A thorough head-to-foot examination will reveal any accumulation of radioactive material. Vigorous sweeping with a broom removes contaminated dust and dirt from shoes and clothing.

Note that this is many years after Hiroshima.

https://www.matconlist.com/2019/01/the-atomic-veterans-deser...