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Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by freshdonut on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:42PM (#28042353)
Have you been to a college campus in the last two or three years?

There is a serious smartphone addiction problem. It is seriously worrying to see so many of my peers craning their necks, starting at their phone for hours on end. On the bus, in class, while hanging out, it is an observable fact that everyone is almost always on their phone.

I personally believe we are in a watershed moment for human civilization. The harms of this smartphone addicted world will snowball down into later generations who have never known a life without every need catered for and every boring moment seized by entertainment.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by xtracto on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:54PM (#28043186)
When I was an 9 year old kid (~ 1991) my dad bought a book ( https://www.amazon.com/Video-Kids-Making-Sense-Nintendo/dp/0... ) to understand our "addiction" to Videogames... My dad seriously thought that it was going to doom our generation.

Fast forward 30 years, and we are doing OK. Things are different, but OK for us. "Videogames" have been replaced by "games" and we take them for granted and don't pay that much attention.

My take is that, for Generation Alpha kids, all the technology will be like bicycles or cars for us: It will be ubiquitous and they will all now how to use it. So there won't be any question about their use.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by xwkd on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:59PM (#28051497)
Only 44 percent of millennials between the ages of 23-38 were married in 2019.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by zimmund on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @11:43PM (#28056981)
No correlation.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by xwkd on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @11:55AM (#28062535)
Oh! Well, if that's the case, then forget I said anything.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by paxys on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:53PM (#28042490)
Is any of this backed by real facts or just your "kids these days" observations? Today's youth is better suited for dealing with smartphones and the overall connected world than we could ever be. All the people I know with real technological addiction problems (whether to smartphones, social media, scams, online radicalization or anything else) are like 45+.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by res0nat0r on Monday August 02, 2021 @09:39PM (#28044824)
I kind of think of this picture when people get a bit overzealous on blaming the phone for everything: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8e4223c6702a14f56c69c0...
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by mojuba on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @05:21AM (#28047154)
Funny, however: a newspaper that learns about what you like and can infinitely supply the most engaging material is not the same as a newspaper that doesn't.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by ratsforhorses on Monday August 02, 2021 @10:20PM (#28045069)
https://stareintothelightsmypretties.jore.cc/ have you seen this? Also really recommend reading "what the internet is doing to our brains" by N. Carr
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by freshdonut on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:30PM (#28042938)
> All the people I know with real technological addiction > problems (whether to smartphones, social media, scams, online radicalization or anything else) are like 45+.

Exactly. No one is safe. Everyone I know in my age group (15-26) can not exist without opening up their smartphone every 5 seconds to check social media or watch YouTube.

There was a good documentary about this topic called The Social Network. You may have heard of it. I think it is a good starting point to this way of thinking.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by anigbrowl on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:48PM (#28043681)
I like how you quoted the post without reading it.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by Sebb767 on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:55PM (#28043199)
> There was a good documentary about this topic called The Social Network.

Are you talking about the movie about Mark Zuckerberg? Because this movie is not bad, but it's definitely not a documentary.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by bombela on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:30PM (#28043496)
Maybe the GP was thinking of the documentary/drama: The Social Dilemma
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by freshdonut on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:37PM (#28043568)
Yeah sorry I meant the The Social Dilemma.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by qwertox on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:49PM (#28043133)
We don't really know how this turns out in the long run. These kids do have an IRL social life, even if they're constantly staring at a screen.

I wonder how they will live their day by day when they are pensioners and their old friends which they haven't seen in decades still will be around inside their phones, asking how they're doing, how their day was.

Then they'll make a trip and visit them because they are nearby. Not much different as it was in the past, but better connected.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by harperlee on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:07PM (#28042638)
Have a look at this counterargument: https://www.sadanduseless.com/evil-iphones/
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by freshdonut on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:22PM (#28042840)
The principal purpose of a newspaper in the olden days was not to seize your attention, trap you into scrolling onto endless feeds, or relieve one from every moment of boredem with YouTube.

These are two completely different things.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by anigbrowl on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:52PM (#28043700)
As a one-time sub-editor, that was exactly the purpose. The medium has changed, but the aim hasn't, much. Newspapers used to provide information, opinions, diversions, and a guide to the TV listings for when you were tired of reading your newspaper. I got in trouble occasionally for writing overly cynical descriptors of what was on TV that evening and generating upset letters to the editor.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by harperlee on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:25PM (#28042879)
Also not the principal purpose of the iPhone.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by freshdonut on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:31PM (#28042943)
But the principal usage for sure.
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by MayeulC on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:11PM (#28043347)
I was expecting to read that article from mid-1800s or early 1900s lamenting how everyone just sits there in trains, public transports, etc. Just reading their newspapers and not paying attention to their surroundings or socializing.

Well, it was a visual version. But if anyone has a link to the article I remember, I would appreciate it.

Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by distances on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:23PM (#28043437)
Not what you asked for, but a related XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1227/
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by MayeulC on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @04:48AM (#28046987)
My recollection is fuzzy, maybe that was it? Thanks for sharing that one anyway!
Re:Life before smartphones (2020) by throwaway984393 on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @05:00PM (#28054139)
If this is true, the watershed moment was actually the introduction of the television. Multiple generations have grown up glued to it and influenced by it. Before that it was radio. But each time a new technology vies for our attention, it does it differently, and a new successor comes up that changes things yet again. It is most likely that we cannot predict what the future holds from all these changes as each time it has a slightly different form and effects.

I predict the next one is a contact lens with a ticker-tape of entertaining information, and machine-learning driven "ad placements" which are phrases/sentence structure designed to call one's mind to a product's slogan without directly printing it.