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Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by toshk on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:31AM (#28034917)
In this case the argument is focused on Apple forcing you into their ecosystem. Even though some packages might be generic, Xcode tools & codesign wont run and build on another OS then MacOS.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by jen20 on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:44AM (#28035002)
This is just like saying clang compiled for Linux won’t run on Windows [1].

[1]: Yes, I know about WSL. No, that doesn’t count.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by simiones on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:58AM (#28035090)
It's not: for any other OS, you can develop and compile on whichever other OS you want. Sure, MSVC won't run on Linux, but you can just compile it with clang or GCC on Linux and target Windows. There is no way to do that for iOS.

And this is not because no one wants to write a backend to target iOS, it's because Apple won't allow it. If you want to run native code on iOS, it must be built and signed with XCode on a Mac.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by pjmlp on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:24AM (#28035251)
Try to create a UWP application or Windows service, or do any kind of debugging or ETW monitoring, like that.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by simiones on Monday August 02, 2021 @09:25AM (#28036199)
Fair enough with UWP. Might be one of the many reasons no one uses it...

I will still note that debugging and monitoring are usually not going to work cross-platform - try to log to journalfs from a Windows system (wihtout using MinGW or similar).

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by pjmlp on Monday August 02, 2021 @10:27AM (#28036939)
Plenty of people use it, they don't need help from Linux devs trying to cross compile applications without any tooling for UI/UX.