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Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by iamphilrae on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:12AM (#28034118)
I have driven past this stretch of road a hundred times, and it’s painful. 15-20mph for a good 10 mile stretch all because of people “rubber necking” to see the henge. As soon as you’re past it, instantly back up to 60mph.

But you know what would sort it… a hedge. A simple hedge. Stick something in the way of the drivers seeing the thing from the road, and you’ve cured the problem.

Why it is insisted that a multi-million (probably billion as costs will overrun) pound highway tunnel project is required, I have no idea. Just plant a bloody hedge!

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by zimpenfish on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:33AM (#28034245)
> Why it is insisted that a multi-million (probably billion as costs will overrun) pound highway tunnel project is required [...] Just plant a bloody hedge!

At the risk of sounding cynical about the current state of UKGOV, you can't really bung your mates a hedge planting contract and expect to get something in return later.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by FerretFred on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:42AM (#28035361)
Came here to say this.
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by shatnersbassoon on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:34AM (#28034249)
The hedge would have to be absolutely massive to hide the henge when you are heading West. The way the road dips down before you get to it means that you would easily see it over any normal size hedge. Even if the it's a fleeting glimpse, it doesn't solve the problem as people will still rubber neck. If anything it will make it worse.

And seeing the controversy is due to the fact that it's the whole landscape that is historic, arguing that you should put a massive a-historic hedge straight across it undermines the main argument against the other proposals.

Do you really think that the planners haven't thought of a hedge and discarded the idea?

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by DonHopkins on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:16AM (#28034849)
How about an absolutely massive hedge in the shape of Stonehenge, called Stonehedge, right next to the road, so everyone can see it easily?
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by ourcat on Monday August 02, 2021 @12:09PM (#28038529)
There is a 'Woodhenge' nearby ;)
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by dboreham on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:10AM (#28035163)
Classic.
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by londons_explore on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:18AM (#28034521)
I wonder what would happen if you were to say walk along the roadside with a rucksack full of fast growing pine tree seeds which unfortunately had a small leak, letting all the pine seeds fall onto the verge?

10 years later, problem solved. And the tunnel is probably still being argued about in court.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by adrianN on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:18AM (#28034861)
If someone were to take trips with leaky rucksacks in that area, I would recommend loading up a variety of native tree species such as those species listed by the woodland trust.
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by BoxOfRain on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:50AM (#28034348)
>Do you really think that the planners haven't thought of a hedge and discarded the idea?

I know this is a bit trite but it wouldn't surprise me given the UK government's record in this area, questionable transport policy is as British as complaining about the weather.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by throwaway0a5e on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:40AM (#28034977)
Split the difference, dig a trench/valley to put the highway in.

Bonus points for the noise reduction vs a hedge/fence.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by Angostura on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:00AM (#28034419)
The main issue isn't the rubbernecking. It's that a largely dual carriageway A303 is reduced to single carriageway at this point. Similar jams occur frequently at other points along the road where this happens.
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by iamphilrae on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:37AM (#28034620)
True, but the other direction is simply the rubber necking as it’s single lane on the approach. Plus in the direction you are stating, there’s a clear backlog from directly next to the henge - 20mph traffic until the instant people are past where it heads straight back to 60mph. A hedge can only but help that situation.
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by BuildTheRobots on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:42AM (#28034986)
Whilst it must be annoying if you're a local, I'd suggest that slowing down and rubber necking is exactly the correct response to have when passing something as classically awesome as the henge.

What would solve the problem easily (rather than trying to hide it with a hedge), would be to do as they do up in Scotland in the national parks: Provide plenty of parking places anywhere the henge is in view. I drove through Galloway National Park a few weeks ago and every 200 yards the scenery changes to another amazing view and every 200 yards or so, there's somehwre you can safely stop and enjoy it. People can now safely stop to have a look and take photos, and traffic on the road can drive.

If people are amazed enough at a piece of national heritage that they want to admire it, hiding it from view seems like entirely the wrong response.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by celticninja on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:56AM (#28035072)
If you do that then they can't charge you to view it
Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by Reason077 on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:04AM (#28035128)
> "Stick something in the way of the drivers seeing the thing from the road, and you’ve cured the problem."

Rubbernecking is not the only problem. The existing A303 road splits the Stonehenge landscape in half. The whole ambiance of Stonehenge is kind of ruined by the roar of the trunk road running right next to it.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by Reason077 on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:22AM (#28035237)
> "15-20mph for a good 10 mile stretch all because of people “rubber necking” to see the henge. As soon as you’re past it, instantly back up to 60mph."

This might also be due to the fact that the largely dual-carriageway A303 narrows and becomes a single-lane road through the Stonehenge site.

Re:High court victory for Stonehenge campaigners as tunnel i... by adav on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:36AM (#28034257)
If I recall the drive correctly that could work quite well in the towards London direction, but there's both a difference in elevation and two lanes merging into one the other way.