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Re:Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible by SEJeff on Monday August 02, 2021 @12:03AM (#28032750)
https://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/cucumbers Bakers Creek only sells heirloom seeds (no cultivars). I get most of my garden seeds from them as they have the lineage of the seeds they sell available.
Re:Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible by jtc331 on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:28PM (#28042914)
Heirloom varieties (more properly “open pollinated”) are themselves cultivars, which just means something that was selected/bred/domesticated.

I think you’re trying to get at “hybrids” (which just means the breeding isn’t stable, i.e., the next generation isn’t first red to match the parents, but even hybrids can be quite tasty.

The issue isn’t the breeding process per se; the issue is selectively breeding for the wrong things (or a single thing instead of a mix of things).

Re:Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible by koolba on Monday August 02, 2021 @01:00AM (#28033070)
These seeds are amazing. The Beit Alpha cucumbers are fantastic and the Purple Bumble Bee cherry tomatoes are some of the greatest I’ve ever eaten.