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Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by stephenhuey on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:48PM (#28031750)
I’m a techie so I’m not sure if the rest of the population thinks about this the same way, but I assume Android phones are spying on me much more than iPhones. Otherwise I’d be down with supporting an “open” phone, though I’m old enough to remember walking tons of people through installing Spybot Search & Destroy due to the, uh, openness of Windows. Also, I spend tons of time fiddling around on the command line and don’t feel the need to get my tinkerer fix from a phone. Maybe other people don’t want to move away from what’s familiar, or they just want to see the blue color for a fellow iMessage user to feel they’re using the same thing as the other iPhone folks. I’m also expecting to rely on various iOS permissions settings as my kids grow up, and Find My iPhone is very handy with my family’s devices.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by jka on Monday August 02, 2021 @03:00AM (#28033681)
I think it's true that both Android and iOS have privacy issues (at a software and design level).

And yep, from the branding of those devices (which Apple can control much more closely since they provide both hardware and software), the perception is much more likely to be that the svelte, sleek white object protects your privacy.

Over a long timeline though, I don't know whether a closed source ecosystem can prove (or achieve) that.

Maybe the code inside all those components is equally pristine and it all respects your privacy as much as the corresponding advertising claims would suggest. Perhaps time will tell.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by season2episode3 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @09:45PM (#28032073)
Spybot Search & Destroy. What a blast from the past :D
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by scns on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:09AM (#28034814)
That GIF from the /e/ foundation website shows quite well how much more, it is still a lot on an iPhone.

https://e.foundation/about-e/

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by derac on Sunday August 01, 2021 @09:17PM (#28031917)
Android has find my phone as well.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by koyote on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:40AM (#28034280)
And Android has had it since 2013.

I am not sure if it's simply bad marketing but I often feel like a lot of the features Android has are unknown to iPhone users (understandable) but also unknown to many Android users.

I remember a colleague of mine getting an iPhone after being on Android for years. I asked her why she switched and she told me that there were all these great features her friend had told her about that iPhones had. Turns out all those features already existed on Android, they were just unknown to her.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by simondotau on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:49AM (#28034683)
If a feature falls in a forest and nobody is around to hear it, did it make a sound? Less cryptically, if a user isn't aware of a feature, does it really exist for them?
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by SilverRed on Monday August 02, 2021 @12:11AM (#28032782)
The ios one is just better. Or at least they present the features better. On Android I do not remember it being an app but instead a website you go to. On iOS the app has multiple functions, finding your phone/macbook/ipad, finding your friends if they enable location sharing, and finding your items via airtags. The latest version even lets you track your iphone while it is turned off via an airtags like function built in.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by TickleSteve on Monday August 02, 2021 @03:19AM (#28033796)
FYI: Its an app on Android also... and lets you find any registered device. Its up to you to get your friends registered on it tho.

Airtags are different as there is no first party implementation, they're all 3rd party (Tile, samsung, etc).