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Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by SimeVidas on Sunday August 01, 2021 @05:45PM (#28030346)
> Why people are still using and promoting Cloudflare

I use Cloudflare because it hosts my website for free.

Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by the_other on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:40PM (#28031333)
You understand this makes you a dependant, not a customer, right?
Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by SimeVidas on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:18PM (#28031556)
I pay nothing, so I’m obviously not a customer. If Cloudflare decides to stop hosting my site free of charge, I will have to find another host. In that sense I depend on them. Is that what you meant by dependant?
Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by the_other on Monday August 02, 2021 @09:46AM (#28036411)
Not exactly.

The same is true for paying customers.

When you pay for a service, you have some leverage with them. You funded part of the service, you're a stakeholder. If they mess up, they lose your business.

When you don't pay, you have no leverage.

Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by akagusu on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:07PM (#28031503)
Cloudflare does not host your website for free, a paid customer is paying more on its plan to subsidize your website.
Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by simonh on Sunday August 01, 2021 @10:19PM (#28032230)
That’s arguable. If the free plans help cloudflare grow its brand and customer base and is an effective marketing tool, then it’s helping cloudflare become more profitable. That might make cloudflare a more scalable and efficient business, driving down its costs per customer and enabling lower prices from scale efficiencies.

This is a well known economic effect. I can’t demonstrate it’s the case with cloudflare but it’s quite possible and even likely. Even if it’s not actually driving lower prices, customers can benefit if their service provider is more economically healthy.

Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by SimeVidas on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:19PM (#28031559)
I obviously meant “free” as in “I pay nothing.”
Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by montroser on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:30PM (#28031624)
They obviously knew what you meant, but their point is still worthy of consideration.
Re:Cloudflare's inaccessible browser contradicts the company... by cf_is_nsa on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:15PM (#28031544)
Or maybe it's the taxpayer.