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Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by gundmc on Sunday August 01, 2021 @01:13PM (#28027958)
There is a lot implied in this article. Right from the word "quietly" in the title, we're clearly supposed to believe that something sinister is going on, but the article doesn't connect the dots on any sort of quid pro quo.

It doesn't seem inherently shady to fund research relevant to your area of business. Did the outcomes of research at these institutions change after receiving money from Google and Facebook?

Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by amelius on Sunday August 01, 2021 @02:17PM (#28028577)
> Did the outcomes of research at these institutions change after receiving money from Google and Facebook?

Perhaps not the outcomes. But some PI could have said "let's not research that, because Google might not like it".

Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by toxik on Sunday August 01, 2021 @03:36PM (#28029160)
I find it unlikely, this would quickly earn them the reputation of being a turncoat. A bad reputation is pretty hard to shake off. Ten good deeds weigh the same as one bad deed.
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by wpasc on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:15PM (#28029477)
Idk, it might be pretty hard to work at an institution where Facebook provides a lot of funding and not have that filter in to your mind at all, consciously or subconsciously. Let's say your considering a range of topics to pursue next and you know Facebook is a big funder, you may just choose not to pursue "is depression strongly positively correlated with Instagram use in teens" and pursue something else
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by the_rectifier on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:19PM (#28029515)
This is exactly how manipulation is done and the reason for companies to do the funding.
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by toxik on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:58PM (#28029895)
It’s much less sinister than that. Facebook funds PhDs in some fields because they want experts in that field to a) exist, b) like Facebook.
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by droopyEyelids on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:50PM (#28031404)
Even the way you're phrasing it, sounds like PhDs don't get to a) exist without Facebook's blessing
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by toxik on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:20AM (#28034870)
It is generally the case that things don't exist without funding, correct. Different countries have different political consensus on how much tax money to pour into funding PhDs for basic research, but /all/ do to some extent as far as I know.

I think you should read Sapiens by Harrari, he writes about the interaction between universities, capitalism and democracy. Very illuminating to me.

Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by HarryHirsch on Sunday August 01, 2021 @02:47PM (#28028797)
We know what happens when research is founded by non-impartial entities. We've seen it in the context of the tobacco settlement.
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by blub on Sunday August 01, 2021 @02:26PM (#28028635)
The researchers are failing to disclose their financial relationship with e.g. Google while publishing papers about e.g. Google. This is a clear cut conflict of interest which should get them banned from publishing.
Re:How Google quietly funds Europe’s leading tech policy ins... by gundmc on Sunday August 01, 2021 @02:31PM (#28028673)
Agreed. If there are norms around transparency of funding that are not being followed then that is a big problem.