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Re:The recycling myth: A plastic waste solution littered wit... by gurkendoktor on Saturday July 31, 2021 @11:28AM (#28018976)
> Why does the fact that you have bigger problems in your backlog negate working on the smaller, quicker wins first?

One should pick the tasks with the best cost/benefit ratio first. It seems intuitive enough to me that the same amount of $ will go much, much further around the Ganges than in an effort to ban plastic straws in developed countries, or whatever else I see political capital being burnt on.

Re:The recycling myth: A plastic waste solution littered wit... by 3grdlurker on Saturday July 31, 2021 @11:39AM (#28019082)
Is it just the cost/benefit ratio that you have to consider? How about the quality of being realistic? Tell me, and in the context of the previous responses--how realistic is it that North America will be able to carry out and enforce its agenda in the Ganges?
Re:The recycling myth: A plastic waste solution littered wit... by gurkendoktor on Sunday August 01, 2021 @06:47AM (#28025330)
A good cost/benefit analysis would have to include this. And yes, I personally think that the developed world can drive change in other countries, otherwise I wouldn't donate to an NGO that attempts to do just that (not for plastics though).

One problem is that what I'm saying could easily be framed as "white people telling brown people what to do", and then everyone would drop it like a hot potato because it smells like colonialism. So it's politically safer to stay in my lane and buy a MacBook pouch made from recycled PET bottles instead.

(What I agree on is that the developed world should not export its trash or otherwise sabotage foreign countries.)

Re:The recycling myth: A plastic waste solution littered wit... by 3grdlurker on Monday August 02, 2021 @11:59AM (#28038381)
The problem isn't just "white people telling brown people what to do", though that's certainly one aspect of it. The more important issue, though, is that there's no way for developed countries to significantly "drive change" in other countries without undermining the sovereignty of the latter through some kind of bribery or debt trap or predatory trade deal.