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Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by e12e on Friday July 30, 2021 @08:05PM (#28013935)
Why not?
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by kortilla on Friday July 30, 2021 @11:02PM (#28014874)
Because unions offer literally no upside for companies. They are meant precisely to organize the collective power of the employees to pressure the company into deals with its employees it wouldn’t have otherwise.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by shawnz on Saturday July 31, 2021 @01:11AM (#28015465)
One upside for companies is that the unions are better able to represent the interests of the employees than, for example, the HR department would be able to, simply because of the incentives at play. This could attract more talent to the company, improve retention, and give the company more insight into the employees' needs.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by ekianjo on Saturday July 31, 2021 @05:27AM (#28016651)
only in theory. in practice unions become just like other orgs where leaders concentrate power for themselves and fail to represent anyone at all. making the situation worse for the employee and the employees.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by shawnz on Saturday July 31, 2021 @09:14AM (#28017835)
If that's the inevitable fate of all orgs then why bother creating any kind of society at all?

I can agree that unions concentrate power in imperfect ways, but personally I still think they are an overall improvement on the non-union status quo.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by kortilla on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @06:30PM (#28055019)
> unions are better able to represent the interests of the employees than, for example, the HR department would be able to

Employees are really good at complaining (at least in the US). Management that is interested in knowing what bothers employees definitely knows without a union.

> This could attract more talent to the company, improve retention

Paying more money works even better. People choose better paying jobs pretty consistently even if it means dropping the union.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @06:31PM (#28055032)
> Management that is interested in knowing what bothers employees definitely knows without a union.

Sure, but unions are good at motivating management to care.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by AlexanderTheGr8 on Friday July 30, 2021 @09:04PM (#28014252)
Long ago, there were 2 companies - one welcomed unions and the other stopped unions. The one which welcomed unions lost it's profit margin and the other "predatory" company kept it's profit margins and grew more aggressively and put the "good" company out of business.

After that entrepreneurs learned that you need to be ruthless to win in capitalism. Don't get me wrong, I support fair wages for all employees, no matter what they do. But in real life capitalism, only the most ruthless companies win (FB, AMZN), unless they have an amazing product (e.g. GOOGL)

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by shakezula on Saturday July 31, 2021 @12:25AM (#28015287)
If you truly supported fair wages then you’d support collective bargaining.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by e12e on Saturday July 31, 2021 @10:37AM (#28018497)
I'm not sure GOOGL is any less ruthless, they where certainly not above illegal wage fixing.