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Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by duxup on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:16PM (#28012473)
>recently began cracking down on Slack channels that aren’t directly related to work

I get it even just as a general response to things that have happened other places. The meta conversation is endless and stuff gets out of hand.

If I were an employer I'd be tempted to "You know what, I'm not gonna moderate or facilitate this stuff getting out of hand. We're here to work right?"

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by azemetre on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:30PM (#28012603)
Yeah but it also denies the fact that we spend 1/3 of our working lives at work. It's extremely silly to say not talk about things that directly impact you, especially work related things.

It reminds of the crappy jobs I'd work at where management would tell us that discussing salaries was illegal, it's not illegal.

This isn't an 1880s mining town, Apple isn't the only game in town. Workers have options and I doubt Apple employees would honestly struggle to get jobs at other more remote friendly workplaces like Crowdstrike, SalesForce, or even Facebook.

It's one thing to not allow something, it's an entirely different thing to force people to stop discussing something because a massive multinational corporation feels threatened by a few hundred employees.

It is pathetic.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by duxup on Friday July 30, 2021 @08:09PM (#28013961)
Mining job comparison over slack channels?

That seems pretty out there.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by azemetre on Saturday July 31, 2021 @02:36PM (#28020569)
The comparison being that several hundred years ago if you wanted to work in a certain city sometimes there would literally be one company that ran everything.

They were aptly named company towns:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town#United_States

They have an interesting, and often sordid, history.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by duxup on Saturday July 31, 2021 @06:38PM (#28022100)
I know the history. The connection to slack channels seems absurd.
Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by azemetre on Sunday August 01, 2021 @10:49PM (#28032395)
It's no different than companies stopping workers from organizing. It's scare tactics plain and simple. Rather than confront people and give real answers they take their ball and go home.

It's a poor look.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by ghaff on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:32PM (#28012622)
Conversations in this vein get out of hand, people start getting seriously argumentative and insulting, and people get upset. It's not that discussions of this sort shouldn't happen but company mailing lists maybe aren't the best place to have them if civil debate is the goal.
Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by vmception on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:41PM (#28012719)
1/10th of their employees and any bay area tech company believe that the corporation must "use its platform" to amplify any arbitrary topic

So you either lay down the internal law or have these indefinite squirrel conversations

It's pleasant when they all quit in "defiance". Makes it easier to get a bonus.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by teslafire124 on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:23PM (#28012541)
That's true, but the conversations are still going to happen elsewhere. Any work-related conversation can get derailed. It sounds like they are using it as a blanket excuse for suppressing discussions they don't want employees to have. It may be to just reduce noise, but I feel like a corporation like Apple would want to keep things under tight control.
Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by JumpCrisscross on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:29PM (#28012591)
> the conversations are still going to happen elsewhere

That's fine. This is the equivalent of water-cooler conversations.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by teslafire124 on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:35PM (#28012654)
Yet another reason why it's perplexing they use Slack. It's so easy for Slack channels to devolve into those kinds of chats.
Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by duxup on Friday July 30, 2021 @09:52PM (#28014502)
Yeah and if I made the rule, I'd be okay with that.

Talking about work, that's fine.

It's just the nature of providing a forum/ medium so prone to problems that I would not want to do.

Re:Apple closing down internal Slack channels where employee... by paxys on Friday July 30, 2021 @05:52PM (#28012841)
They are free to mandate it, but if my employer ever said you cannot think or talk about non-work stuff with collegues for 8 hours a day then I'd be out the door immediately.