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Re:Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “Fals... by morpheos137 on Friday July 30, 2021 @07:21AM (#28006761)
Are humans not part of nature? What evidence do we have that nature is ever at any time "in balance?" This is a common trope that is deeply rooted in the western mind. Perhaps it is connected to old ideas like geocentrism.

Here is another way of looking at things: the world is constantly changing. Do I advocate pooping on a crowded beach? No. Is the ocassional defacation of a back country backpacker a problem? No.

It is not like humans are some toxic alien not native to planet earth.

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Re:Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “Fals... by majewsky on Friday July 30, 2021 @08:20AM (#28007158)
Humans are part of 99% of nature. Nature reserves are the control group that helps us understand which effects are caused by us specifically, and which are not.
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Re:Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “Fals... by cmurf on Friday July 30, 2021 @12:30PM (#28009680)
>Are humans not part of nature?

No. Humans are supranatural when it comes to our influence on the planet. While this power is not absolute, it's significant enough to make humans an edge case in nature.

>Is the ocassional defacation of a back country backpacker a problem? No.

In the example given, it's not occasional, but occurs a significant minority of the time that nature can't cope with the volume of human feces.

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Re:Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “Fals... by morpheos137 on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:33PM (#28010319)
So plants are supranatural then too? Their influence far exceeds ours.

Humans are part of nature. Nature is never in balance. Change is the only constant. As pre-Socratic Heralcitus said you "never step in the same river twice."

If humans exceed the carrying capacity of their ecosystem, the system will reduce the number of humans.

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