> Anyone that feels it isn't their thing is free to make their own business, free of union agreements and see how they manage for themselves in the market.

In the United States this is not true. In many states once the union is established in an industry, it becomes illegal to operate a new business without the union.

We have bad union laws.

It is sad that one of the countries where the union movement was born out of the abuse from companies during the industrial age revolution, a subject that Charlie Chaplin even joked about, has turned into an union hate country.

Arguably we have had the industrial successes we have because of the caution about unions. Unions definitely have incentives which hold back innovation and productivity increases (in the economic sense).

But also I didn't say union laws are bad. There are some specific industries/occupations in which unions are A Good Thing. What I said is that the laws we have around unions are really non-ideal and lead to worse outcomes for everybody.

> Unions definitely have incentives which hold back innovation and productivity increases (in the economic sense).

I happen to see it in other way.

Then again, I surely wouldn't like to be on US during the McCarthy era.

Unions lead to innovation and an increase in economic productivity? How so?

Innovation and increase in economic productivity are worthless when obtained via explotation of worker rights.

Modern feudalism desiguised as innovation and increase in economic productivity of a select nobility.