Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by TeeMassive on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:06PM (#27991645)

"They can still take the bus but they must sit in the back"

I'm getting downvoted but people who refuse to get vaccinated tend to be poor and minorities. And who can blame them for not wanting the government injecting a needle inside their body given the US history?

PS: I'm not antivax by any means, I got my two shots.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by ticviking on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:23PM (#27992116)

I know many who are literally just waiting for it to be approved the regular way rather than an EUA.

This nation has done some horrific human experimentation on marginalized groups and always claimed they were “helping people and saving lives.”

I don’t begrudge folks who have a good reason to distrust the system and demand that we at least do the usual baseline caution in investigating brand new tech

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by hef19898 on Thursday July 29, 2021 @06:42AM (#27994918)

Funny how most people have zero idea what the difference between EUA and the "normal way" means. Buying FDA registered non-drugs and medical devices doesn't seem to bother as much so.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by ticviking on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:26AM (#27995615)

A fair point. How do you suggest we communicate those facts to people in a way that improves outcomes?

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by hef19898 on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:28AM (#27995630)

I honestly have no idea. Maybe that's already gone to far for any quick solutions.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by penny4yourthot on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:13PM (#27991695)

I'm trying to think how this could be even close to the same situation.

I realize it's hard to believe I'm not being snarky, but I'm legitimately asking. How is this similar to segregation based on skin color?

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by jimmydorry on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:22PM (#27991754)

Not the GP, but I'm imagining that they meant that in the same way the 'War on Drugs' was not discrimination based on skin color, it had a disproportinate impact on African-American communities (which for all accounts was by design).

Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations and lower rates of vaccination.

Just because something does not claim to discriminate by race, does not make it true. Measures to segregate the unvaccinated WILL impact lower socioeconomic communities more than middle class communities.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by Animats on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:39PM (#27991861)

Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations

Early on, maybe. Not now.

Find the poorest zip code in Alabama, 35203, which is in Birmingham. Look it up in Vaccines.gov. Nearest vaccination locations:

Publix Supermarket, 0.79 miles, in stock.

UAB Hospital, 1.03 miles, in stock.

Walgreens, 1.62 miles. CVS, 1.65 and 1.74 miles.

Legion Field vaccination clinic, 1.99 miles.

There are a dozen more within 5 miles.

That's a populated area. If you look for Cotopia, AL, a small remote town in the poorest county in Alabama, where the post office closed in 1986, it's not quite as easy. You have to go 9 miles, to the nearest WalMart (#10-0731).

If you can make it to a WalMart, a CVS, or a Walgreens, you can get vaccinated.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by Animats on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:21PM (#27992462)

The Tuskegee airmen experiments.

Which confuses two completely different events, the Tuskegee untreated syphilis experiment and the Tuskegee airmen, both over half a century ago.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by Fine-Cut4983 on Thursday July 29, 2021 @01:33PM (#27999022)

The US government has historically conducted quite a bit of experimentation on broad swaths of the population [1], not just your favored marginalized groups. So it sounds like "Karen" is perfectly justified in her skepticism.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by TeeMassive on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:18PM (#27991725)

Religious convictions, lack of trust, fear of getting an experimental vaccine (which it is under the laws they were authorized and developed). To answer to your question, those things are very hard to change although not at hard as race.

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Re:Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S... by howaboutnope on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:39PM (#27991858)

> They who have put out the people's eyes reproach them of their blindness.

-- John Milton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiCeqySVhCE&t=1255s

Intellectuals focusing on how the unwashed masses are the reason we can't have nice things would do well to take a long, hard look at themselves and those they serve.

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