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Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:48PM (#27986883)
We do have that right. Take cars for example, we drive extremely dangerous machines down the road that kill thousands each year. They also put out dangerous pollutants that kill many people. We all live in a world where there is a give and take. It is only recently that people decided we have a right to live risk-free.
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by TulliusCicero on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:51PM (#27986949)
No, you don't. We do accept some risks, but in the case of cars, there are quite a few mandatory things involved designed to limit the risk: it's illegal to drive without a license, illegal to drive while drunk, cars are required to have various safety features to be street-legal, etc.

Same principle here. Vaccines don't completely eliminate the risk of danger from covid, they only reduce it, just like the car regulations.

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:55PM (#27987006)
I can get a job without a car. How soon until I can't get a job without modifying my body?
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by BHSPitMonkey on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:01PM (#27987148)
Some jobs require you to have a car (and a valid license, and an insurance policy). Others don't.

Some jobs require you to work in close proximity with other people. Others don't.

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:32PM (#27987698)
These are good points. I suppose we will see how many other employers force their employees to be vaccinated, even if they are not in close proximity.
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by TulliusCicero on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:02PM (#27987177)
Some jobs actually do require a car, either explicitly or because no other form of transportation would be practical for an area.

Since higher vaccination rates protect other people, I'm hopeful that vaccines become as mandatory as possible. That this bothers anti-vaxxers doesn't bother me, because why should it? I'm not more bothered by this than the vaccine requirement to enter public schools for kids.

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:30PM (#27987655)
I did not say any job, I said "a" job. Yes vaccinations will protect other people. Banning alcohol would protect many people, but its a violation of a person's rights to ban it.
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by TulliusCicero on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:49PM (#27987970)
Okay, and? Yes, we don't have rules for every single possibly protective thing, but we do have rules for a lot of them.

Your line of reasoning could also be used against seat belt laws or building codes: why have those for public safety if we don't ban alcohol?

edit: also, while I don't support banning alcohol, it wouldn't be a violation of a person's basic rights to ban it. That used to be the law of the land in the US, and even today there are still some dry counties (alcohol cannot be sold).

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by pb7 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:38PM (#27987805)
>its a violation of a person's rights to ban it

It's literally not. Have you heard of the Prohibition?

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:13PM (#27988329)
Yes, and it was repealed by the 21st amendment. This was done because it is a violation of peoples' rights.
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by pb7 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:18PM (#27988402)
>This was done because it is a violation of peoples' rights.

That’s not why but which rights do you think it violated exactly? There still exist dry counties in the US.

Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by pb7 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:04PM (#27987210)
Probably around the same time you can shit yourself and walk around the office like that all day everyday.
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by rolobio on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:34PM (#27987733)
If I shit myself, I would know about it and can do something about it. If I have a virus, but no symptoms, how can I prevent spreading?
Re:Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines by pb7 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:37PM (#27987795)
You know about COVID and can do something about not spreading it: get vaccinated.