Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investments in hybrids, hydrogen

Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by Robotbeat on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:19PM (#27986330)

A sidenote but unless public transport vehicles are electric, they won’t be better than battery electric vehicles. Typical diesel buses with typical occupancy rates have worse emissions per passenger mile then, say, a model three with a typical occupancy rate and grid emissions factor in US.

BEVs are fantastic, have SOME level of infrastructure literally everywhere with electricity (you literally can charge from a 120V outlet just fine), and we’ll need basically all vehicles to be battery electric to get to where we need to be.

It also is trivial to add EV charging infrastructure, which is another under appreciated aspect. It’s easier than installing a streetlight.

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Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by kongolongo on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:55PM (#27988937)

Personal vehicles also have a much larger carbon footprint in general (from manufacturing, maintenance, etc) aside from just emissions during operation of the vehicle.

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Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by Robotbeat on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:30PM (#27989994)

Operations dominate the total carbon footprint of a gasoline fueled private vehicle. (And public transport buses as well.) so the comparison still is valid. To compete, buses need to also be electric (which is, to be fair!, super easy… electrifying all city buses is incredibly easy compared to electrifying all personal vehicles.)

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Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by asdff on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:14PM (#27988339)

Most bus transit systems are in process to convert their fleet to EV. Most today don't run diesel, but CNG.

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