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Re:I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it by inter_netuser on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @12:57AM (#27980393)
i wonder how companies survived until now with all kinds of outsourcing, outstaffing, contractors in 5 different timezones, vendors in 12 different timezones, regulators in 3 different time zones, separate divisions for APAC, EMEA, US and so on...?

...but just can't handle remote employees that they have so much more control over?

Sounds like complete nonsense to me. If they can handle vendors located on a different continent - they can handle remote employees, full stop.

I'll believe the complaints about WFH when they'll ban offshoring.

Re:I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it by senko on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @04:25AM (#27981527)
> ... how companies survived until now with all kinds of outsourcing ...

All of this involves varying degrees of transaction costs (ie. how hard is it to have everone aligned, communicating effectively, etc). Outsourcing is usually done for (parts of) jobs that can be easily carved out into fairly complete packages.

For example, have the QA team offshore, or outsource the design or slide-deck preparation. Most dev outsourcing is also done at least per-component if not per-project.

True distributed teams are HARD. But having everyone aligned, on the same page and motivated, if half (or more) of the team is remote, means a lot more effort on clear communication, management, etc and many office patterns will need reworking.

As one example, onboarding (esp junior) team members is much harder, as new people learn as much by osmosis as by reading the documentation.

This is not to diss WFH - I prefer it to office esp. cubicle hell - but we should be realistic about the challenges involved.

Re:I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it by MattGaiser on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:02AM (#27980418)
A former colleague of mine quit a job over this. They wanted him back into the office. He mostly worked with their Toptal devs from Nigeria and and Hungary.
Re:I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it by jameshush on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:28AM (#27980823)
I worked on a team that was mostly Seattle people while I was based in the Los Angeles HQ. All my team members were in a different city. Needless to say "switching" to remote wasn't a big deal at all for me.
Re:I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it by inter_netuser on Friday July 30, 2021 @03:56AM (#28005579)
what does he do now? Toptal?