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Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by phendrenad2 on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:22AM (#27973530)
Invoking Occam's Razor, I think that most people who come into the open-source community, promise the moon, and open a Patreon/paypal, actually believe that they can make a difference where so many others failed. They've just vastly underestimated how hard it is to accomplish their promised goal. Then they get defensive. They use the newly-discovered complexity as an excuse to keep accepting donations, and put projects on hold without telling anyone, and move on to a new shiny area where they think they can make a difference. Sometimes they actually do eventually find a goal that they can accomplish, and deliver.
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by zabatuvajdka on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @12:02PM (#27973998)
The problem I think is largely due to lack of checks-and-balances. In the office you have investors who can apply pressure to management, who apply pressure to developers and hold them to a schedule; the lack of peer reviews (potentially) and transparency on the implementation are a problem too.

In the end, what is to stop the developers from walking away? They stand to lose nothing.

I think these platforms need to add legally binding contracts that will force developers to deliver or else they owe a large percentage of the money back (something like that).

Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by austincheney on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:50AM (#27973861)
Why would anybody invest in a project that doesn’t exist? This sounds like a case of the Emperor’s Clothes.
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by api on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:51AM (#27973873)
Well in VC the answer is "the founders worked at Google" or "the founders went to Stanford."
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by fmajid on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @01:33PM (#27975154)
Brock Turner went to Stanford as well.
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by VLM on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:49AM (#27973849)
Not really a linux story, its more "crowd funding doesn't work as an effective market in the presence of crooks"

And in a "bad money always chases out good money" crowdfunded projects seem mostly composed of noobs/crooks. Pros can't compete with infinite supply of people having no idea what they're doing or no intention to do anything, but willing to charge 10% less than the absolute minimum required for success, so pros can't participate in crowdfunding, the marketplace always becomes more toxic with time.

Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by dec0dedab0de on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:32AM (#27973655)
This doesn't seem like it has anything to do with "the linux desktop" but has to do with people taking money with no chance and/or intention of delivering. There aren't any examples given, can anyone think of a time that this happened?
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by recursivedoubts on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:36AM (#27973700)
> implement "better at vetting and rejecting these people"

> 2022: "The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Gatekeepers"

Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by bserge on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:28AM (#27973611)
Err, any examples?
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by AdmiralAsshat on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:36AM (#27973697)
Yeah, keeping it too vague to be useful.

I kinda assume from the post that he's calling out people who roll a thinly-skinned version of Ubuntu, call it a new distro, and setup a new domain to pitch it with a Donate button. But these usually fail to gain much traction, so it's hard to discern whether he's calling out a particularly large or popular distro in particular, or if he's instead calling out contributors within certain communities.

Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by pram on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:34AM (#27973676)
Pandora comes to mind, although it's not a desktop I guess lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)

Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by edoceo on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:31AM (#27973645)
Right! Lots of finger pointing - but what it pointing at?
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by ribs on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:44AM (#27973789)
I assume the author doesn’t want to make accusations for fear of liability. Which makes the piece kinda weak.
Re:The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters by jordemort on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @12:06PM (#27974053)
Yeah, this reads like a very long subtweet, but of what?