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Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by pydry on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @07:47AM (#27971301)
>...actually, I'd VASTLY rather pay a small monthly fee to a small number of writers I care about, than a larger fee for a collection of writers that I don't.

This is the norm, I think. Surprise surprise nobody really wants the shopping channel or the landline that comes with their broadband either.

Newspapers are well aware of the threats of unbundling. It's one of the reasons why the Economist doesn't have bylines, for instance: writers have to remain a commodity.

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ghaff on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @08:20AM (#27971539)
The Economist doesn't have bylines because that wasn't really the norm at the time when they started out. Your point--that reporting shouldn't be primarily about individual credibility--does apply though.

While, in theory, picking and choosing for opinion/analysis (as opposed to news) is valid, in practice there are limits. It basically works for me with video streaming because I'm fine with having a limited number of streaming sources. I'm not sure I would be with $1/month for newsletters much less pay-per-article.

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by pydry on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:38AM (#27972271)
>The Economist doesn't have bylines because that wasn't really the norm at the time when they started out.

A position they held steadfast to when newspapers unionized and it became the norm. Their reliance on surprisingly young journalists (kind of like consultancy bodyshops that recruit out of uni) is one reason they were able to avoid them.

Newspapers have often been threatened by their more popular contributors leaving and taking subscribers with them.

They'd therefore never introduce bylines if they had the leverage relative to their journalists to avoid it just as McDonalds wouldnt offer free daycare if it werent struggling to hire and tech wouldnt offer free food and lavish comps.

>Your point--that reporting shouldn't be primarily about individual credibility

That doesnt seem like a point I would ever make.

I mean, you can justify it "in principle" however you like, the economics boil down to the relative leverage of management and journalists. Bylines function as an asset (reputation) that journalists can, in a sense, capitalize and gives them the leverage to take subscribers elsewhere allowing them to negotiate a greater share of the newspaper revenue (lowering profits).

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ghaff on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:42AM (#27972323)
How many people can name a single hard news reporter (as opposed to opinion writer or editor) at the New York Times? I couldn't and I subscribe.
Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by pydry on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:45AM (#27972359)
Interestingly they've been shrinking their byline font size throughout the years.
Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ghaff on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @10:55AM (#27973194)
I can't say I've made a study of the New York Times specifically. But there was definitely a period in the mid-2000s when it was trendy to play up the individual personalities and work of journalists, analysts, etc. At some point, organizations came to realize this wasn't mostly doing the organization any favors and this sort of thing was mostly pulled back.
Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by pydry on Thursday July 29, 2021 @05:34AM (#27994547)
They always "knew" that it hit them in the profit margin but the journalistic talent had more leverage back then, newspaper margins weren't as thin and growth prospects werent as meager.

If tech has a bad decade no doubt theyll suddenly "realize" that free breakfasts arent doing them any favors and scale them back.

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by newsclues on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:35AM (#27972237)
The model works for you for streaming, and the same logic will apply here.

I can easily get “the news” like you have access to TV or YouTube with similar content to streaming sites. But if you want niche subjects or specific voices, then sub stack subscriptions for the niches you care about makes sense

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ghaff on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:59AM (#27972529)
Historically, there were (and to some degree are) a ton of physical magazines and sometimes newsletters catering to sometimes very niche content. I subscribed to a folding kayak newsletter at one point as well as various cooking/backpacking/etc. magazines.

But Substack content seems to be much more about "voices" as you put it and that I'm far less interested in.

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by bradstewart on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:55AM (#27972478)
Except the way this is shaking out is that paying a small fee for the unbundled channels (or writers, etc) you _do_ want ends up costing more than the bundle did. Not to mention the overhead of managing a million subscriptions to different companies.
Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ghaff on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @10:57AM (#27973230)
The model only really works if there are 1 or 3 writers that you really want for whatever reason. But it doesn't really scale beyond that.
Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by wnissen on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @02:57PM (#27976137)
This reminds me of the market for DVDs, which found a big disconnect between the shows with big ratings on live TV and the shows that sold a ton of DVDs. The former tended to be anodyne comedies, the latter were niche shows with a harder edge.

When there's only three channels or a single local newspaper, you get content that is appealing or at least acceptable to the mass market. The smaller the market, the more extreme the content. When you get to the level of individual writers, I think there's an inevitable radicalization when people only pay for content that really really targets their idiosyncratic interests.

Re:Why the Substack hype is much ado about very little by ramphastidae on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @08:44AM (#27971734)
> It's one of the reasons why the Economist doesn't have bylines, for instance: writers have to remain a commodity.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim? I don’t think this is true.