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Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Nition on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:58PM (#27968451)
> Instead, the mother delivers and the neonate’s growth rate slows relative to its fetal growth rate.

Worth noting how massive the growth rate is I think: Even after birth, the baby gains weight faster than it ever will again in its life. In absolute terms! In relative terms it's even more insane.

A 12-year-old boy going through puberty will go from 90lb to 100lb over a year, an increase of 10lb or ~10%.

The average baby boy will be born at 7.5lb and weigh 20lb at one year old, an increase of 12.5lb or ~270%. Nearly triple the size!

Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by techrat on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @03:00AM (#27969441)
Diminishing returns as the numbers of scale increase.

The growth might seem impressive when you do percentages of a very small number, but it's still a very small number overall.

Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Nition on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @05:13AM (#27970302)
It's not though, that's my point. Even in absolute terms, weight gain from growth in the first year is still more than any other time in the average person's life.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by agent008t on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @04:19AM (#27969932)
Putting on 6kg in a year is not that fast, people do sometimes gain weight faster than that in adulthood.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by FartyMcFarter on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @04:50AM (#27970149)
That's not growth, just fat accumulation which is a much simpler process.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Naracion on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:08AM (#27973348)
How are you defining growth? Are you defining it by volume? Ie assuming the body mass density remains the same, how much does the weight increase (which means the body is volumetrically growing)?

If not--I am very lightweight right now, and I'm trying to put on body mass by eating more and exercising. While my volume will increase, my main growth is in density. My growth is not in fat, but actual muscle mass. Is this growth? If so, I have gone from 125lb to 140lb in ~2 months, which in absolute terms is obviously more than the baby (my goal is 160lb by the end of the year).

A few years ago, I went from ~130lb to 165 lb in three months--blame the free food at FAANG cafes during an internship. But this might be closer to what you were saying earlier--putting on fat.

Edit. I guess in the original statement saying that a person will never gain weight at this rate again there should be the explicit assumption that we're talking about natural growth, not growth due to external factors (ie more eating--intentional or not). In that case, that statement would be true.

Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by agent008t on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @11:50AM (#27973868)
I wouldn't say that growth through eating is unnatural though.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Naracion on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @12:57PM (#27974687)
I guess what I might have implied by "natural" is growth from growing older as opposed to growth from nutrition.

But in that sense, of course a baby will have more growth than an adult--isn't it reverse exponential?

Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by agent008t on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @06:48AM (#27970900)
And a child puts on 100% bone and muscle?
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by FartyMcFarter on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @07:20AM (#27971077)
No, but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by agent008t on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @08:05AM (#27971436)
I was just pointing out that a baby does not gain weight faster than it ever will again in its life, in absolute terms. That's all. Not sure why I got the downvotes and no-true-scotsman arguments in return.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by tk75x on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @07:34AM (#27971184)
Plus fat and some water, yes. And furthermore, to go from a 10 pound baby to a 100 pound adult, I will make the claim that a baby has to gain 900% body mass.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Nition on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @05:19AM (#27970338)
I'm going by average weight gain from normal growth. But let's look at height instead then.

Average height at age 12: 59". At age 13: 62". 3" of growth.

At birth: 19". At one year: 29". 11" of growth.

Try matching that just by eating more.

(obviously, yes, it's easier for a small thing to grow than a large thing. But it's still crazy fast. Imagine being 50% taller in a year)

Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by agent008t on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @06:51AM (#27970915)
You talked about weight gain, in absolute terms. A novice powerlifter can easily put on both more absolute weight and absolute strength in a year than a newborn.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by shard on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:02AM (#27971902)
The image of a baby trying to outlift the weights that a novice weightlifter is lifting is now ingrained in my mind.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by Nition on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:53AM (#27982023)
What I was trying to say is the baby is growing faster. If you stay at average weight throughout your life, like you're tracking along the 50% line on the growth chart, then your fastest weight gain is in your first year. On average that's when you gain the most weight (even in absolute terms), despite the fact that you're much much smaller than, say, a growing teenager.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by ljf on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @05:02AM (#27970241)
But putting on 100% or even 200% of weight in a year is not normal or even possible for most adults without crippling their health. All babies do this.
Re:Mammals dream about the world they are about to experienc... by pedrosorio on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @09:19AM (#27972043)
I believe the GP was contesting the "In absolute terms!" part of the comment.