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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by AtlasBarfed on Monday July 26, 2021 @07:05PM (#27966585)
Dishonesty aside, this hits like a ton of bricks: FOUR YEARS to leadership. Even with Moore's law slowing, that is a loooong time. I remember when Intel had seemingly a two year lead in process, around 65nm I think.

And now, project four years to leadership, and assuming the economics and competition won't respond.

If Moore's Law hits a major wall (it has to ... sometime, right?), then that may be the catch-up.

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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by monocasa on Monday July 26, 2021 @07:11PM (#27966633)
It won't even be leadership. TSMC 3nm is about equivalent to Intel 20A, and is hitting risk production by the end of this year.

It reads to me as sugarcoating the admission that they're continuing to fall behind.

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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by heisenbit on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @06:44AM (#27970874)
It is not clear at all that these games work. In April SemiAccurate already warned:

Intel should not rename their processes

Analysis: An unwinnable fight should not be picked

https://www.semiaccurate.com/2021/04/07/intel-should-not-ren...

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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by IanCutress on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @06:39AM (#27970844)
Intel is moving to GAA on 20A. TSMC is moving to GAA on N2. Just to put that into perspective
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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by thunkshift1 on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @03:16PM (#27976357)
4 years is an acceptable timeline. We are not taking about software product roadmaps here. If you consider the amount of time and time and effort it took apple, amazon to come out just with chip designs, this is reasonable. While its true that tsmc “3, 4 nm” are ok track for 2022.. its debatable if that naming means what it actually implies. Also tsmc had priority access to euv solutions this time around.. lets wait and see if Intel can deliver before passing judgement outright.
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