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Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by pjmlp on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:31PM (#27965048)
The old Internet Explorer full of toolbars, and a notification area with an endless amount of background services, kind of proves the point that the general public are children unable to make decisions for themselves.
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by feikname on Monday July 26, 2021 @06:14PM (#27966155)
These toolbars were usually bundled with legit software (Heck, even Java installed Bing toolbar..) behind dark patterns where a computer beginner would, understandably, not realize they were also installing something else.

As long as the dialog for unlocking your phone would clearly state the risks and what it does, unlike those toolbars upon installation, I think it would totally be OK.

Imagine if you couldnt install Linux on any PC because Dell didnt give you the keys to prevent you from hurting yourself. Or Apple didnt allow sudo in macOS. Seems kinda absurd right? Yet this is the standard for phones.

Also Id like to point out that Android allows installation of external APKs (after activating) and it didnt lead to a super increase in malware, as user still prefer the Play Store, and APK are usually left for the more technically inclined user for niche purposes or often times Region lock circumventing.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by fingerlocks on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:56PM (#27968444)
> and it didnt lead to a super increase in malware

Are you sure about that? I pulled an old, cheap Android phone out of storage box to do some debugging. I needed a quick file manager app, installed one of the top results on Google Play that was baked with some malware that may have bricked the device (didn't bother to try to fix it, it's in the bootloader). Granted this was an old version of Android, but that's still a bit egregious. I can't recall anything like that happening on iOS.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by alisonkisk on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @02:33AM (#27969308)
how do you know it was malware and not a hardware or sofrware failure?
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by fingerlocks on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @04:39AM (#27970087)
Childish message on the screen, googled it. Boot loader is infected.
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by pjmlp on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @01:45AM (#27969030)
Security reports for Android

https://blog.zimperium.com/new-advanced-android-malware-posi...

-> "Upon installation (from a third party store, not Google Play Store), the device gets registered with the Firebase Command and Control (C&C) with details such as the presence or absence of WhatsApp, battery percentage, storage stats, the token received from the Firebase messaging service, and the type of internet connection. "

It isn't hard to find similar reports, there are enough of them.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by theshadowknows on Monday July 26, 2021 @10:02PM (#27967780)
Wanna know the sad thing? When I was…12 or so… I thought all those cool icons were awesome. So I _only_ installed programs that had them…and all those little “desktop buddies” I had maybe five of them. Innocent days gone bye.