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Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by arcticbull on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:28PM (#27963241)
Can they though?

(1) US persons and entities cannot redeem, period, so that leaves out all of Coinbase doesn't it? [edit] originally I mentioned FTX but of course they're based on Antigua and Barbuda and Hong Kong. [1 - Section 3/ and 3/3].

(2) Only individuals Tether deems as customers at their sole discretion are permitted to redeem. [1 - Section 9/ - "Tether in its absolute and sole discretion may determine that you are a customer of TIL or TLTD"]

(3) Tether may delay redemptions arbitrarily at their sole discretion. [1 - Section 3/]

(4) Tether may substitute whatever is in their reserves in lieu of cash at their sole discretion, and themselves admit to only having 3% of the cash needed to satisfy the "obligations" (and I air-quote say that because ... [1 - Section 3/]

(5) Holding tether tokens is not a claim to any backing assets. Any redemptions are strictly goodwill.

(6) Tether has identified their absconding with all the funds as a risk in their white paper [2 page 10].

This is all on their website. [1] Roughly speaking nobody has tried to redeem any - for obvious reasons. They know they can't.

To your point it's the largest exchanges with their hands in this particular cookie jar, and their fates are entwined. The exchanges are holding the bags, Binance alone has 17,000,000,000 USDT. They won't do anything to potentially upset the peg, and are incentivized to do whatever they can to maintain it. Otherwise, to your point, RIP.

[1] tether.to/legal

[2] https://tether.to/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/TetherWhitePape...

Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by anonymoushn on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:29PM (#27965740)
One reason that roughly nobody tries to redeem, other than the operational issues, opportunity cost of waiting for bank wires, need for a non-US entity, etc. is that Tether is usually trading at a premium to $1. So when there's profit to be had, it's usually by creating Tethers, not redeeming them.
Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by leppr on Monday July 26, 2021 @03:11PM (#27963908)
> Roughly speaking nobody has tried to redeem any - for obvious reasons. They know they can't.

Usually you at least come up with FUD that sounds reasonable to an outsider.

Obviously many people (some that I know personally) have "redeemed" USDT for a USD wire via Tether. Tether may be fraudulent but it wouldn't have held up until now without some aspect of credibility. There are many 8 figures+ redemptions going on, sometimes multiple times a day.

Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by arcticbull on Monday July 26, 2021 @03:13PM (#27963941)
> Obviously many people (some that I know personally) have "redeemed" USDT for a USD wire from Tether. Tether may be fraudulent but it wouldn't have held up until now without some aspect of credibility. There are many 8 figures+ redemptions going on, sometimes multiple times a day.

I have not seen a single piece of evidence of this, and I have not seen any burns to line up with this. If you'd like to provide some I'll happily retract my statement.

For what it's worth 8 figures is small potatoes, Bitfinex literally grabbed 800M worth of their reserves one time, so we know they have some money in the piggy bank. They have some cash, but way, way, way less than they would require for a semblance of actual legitimacy.

Otherwise, everything I posted is directly from their legal page and whitepaper.

Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by yadaeno on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:31PM (#27968316)
Bitfinex was able to do this because they are owned by the same individuals as the people who own teather.

800m is still a drop in the bucket compared to the 64billion issued tether.

Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by wmf on Monday July 26, 2021 @07:06PM (#27966596)
What bank did the wires come from?
Re:Tether executives said to face criminal probe into bank f... by renewiltord on Monday July 26, 2021 @03:26PM (#27964147)
Won’t we expect to see token burns to match redemption? That should be easy to point to on the blockchain. Such a low cost way to just blow away all FUD.