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Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by akudha on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:00PM (#27962784)
A woman was saying (on Reddit, I think) that she is not comfortable sitting for an hour at the charging station. If I hadn't read that, I would've never thought of the safety angle for female EV owners.

I hope EVs surpass gas guzzlers, but there are some issues to fix before that can happen.

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by fattire on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:10PM (#27962946)
Leaving aside "sitting for an hour" (?), isn't it much safer to charge 99% of the time in your own garage and never have to regularly step out of your car alone at a dark gas station on the corner?

Even on a long drive you leave home with a "full tank" without having that first stop to gas up.

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by fossuser on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:14PM (#27963018)
Yeah - plus superchargers are typically in busy public areas often with security (unlike many gas stations).

It feels fairly contrived, I'm skeptical it's not just anti-ev motivated reasoning.

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by natch on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:27PM (#27963221)
No need for security, Tesla owners watch out for each other.
Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by natch on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:58PM (#27966008)
To put it another way, people charging EVs tend to look out for each other and help each other. At Tesla chargers, since they have multiple plugs in one spot, there are often other friendly people there charging so you feel safer and more secure. So even without security guards it is a good setup for leaving your car or for being there in a strange parking lot.
Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by natch on Monday July 26, 2021 @02:25PM (#27963194)
People draw a lot of scary conclusions based on what they know about bad EV choices.

It all depends on what car you choose.

With Teslas at least, you don’t sit for an hour, since they have fast chargers all over the place. In other cars, yes.

Some of our charges are 5-10 minutes. On a road trip most are 20-30 minutes. The longest charge is if you need to get to a place that is near the edge of your range, which is exceedingly rare, even on long road trips. In those highly unusual cases you might have to charge for 45-50 minutes for that one leg of the trip, if you didn’t arrive with half a charge already. Again this is with a supercharger. Other cars… yes, scary charge times. (You will hear about how some cars… Porsche… can charge at a faster rate, but the chargers to support this are rare, so their fast rate is often not possible and they are stuck at a slow charger for hours.)

Also with other cars you are sitting there alone often at a single plug station. With Tesla chargers you are generally not alone, you are with other Tesla owners who have your back if anything suspicious starts happening around the area.

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by robertlagrant on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:30PM (#27965753)
This is where Tesla Coils come in. Just play Red Alert 2.
Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by anotherman554 on Monday July 26, 2021 @03:44PM (#27964419)
Honest question: is there any evidence a woman sitting in a car is more likely to be attacked than a man sitting in a car?
Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by spullara on Monday July 26, 2021 @03:36PM (#27964305)
Almost no one sits in their car while charging. This is just FUD.