Re:Pronouncing non-English names for English speakers
by nindalf on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:39AM
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I don't think you're quite there yet. It's more like how this lady says it in the first 10 seconds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMJNV61I9iU. She guides you through pronouncing these sounds.
You're right though. I could probably get Chinese pronunciation correct given enough time and effort. but it's not trivial, like I thought earlier.
As for learning to distinguish X from Sh, and the Ch/J/Zh/Q and C/Z distinctions in Mandarin, I think your beliefs may have swung too far from one pole to the other. It took me six or seven years to learn to pronounce American English [ɹ] correctly, and I made lots of hearing errors during that time as well. It can take time to learn to hear phonetic differences. Unsurprisingly you weren't able to learn the difference between [ɕ] and [ʂ] in a single fifteen-minute session, but if you'd done two fifteen-minute sessions a day for two years, you'd almost certainly get it. In fact, you might find that it only takes you a few weeks!