Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by afpx on Monday July 26, 2021 @08:41AM
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The NYT reporting seems pretty reliable to me. Could you give a few notable examples at least to support that claim?
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Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by emptysongglass on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:01AM
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For what it's worth, the NYT was also behind the podcast series Caliphate, which I wept to on hearing the first hand accounts of murder and violation perpetrated in the name of ISIS. It came to light later that their primary source they relied on for the story fabricated the whole thing. [1]
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by babyblueblanket on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:23AM
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I believe the NYT also published their own failing there, widely, on its own front page.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by misiti3780 on Monday July 26, 2021 @12:43PM
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Yes, but the author was not fired. Until journalist that fuck up this bad get fired, it's honestly hard to blame people for not taking these publications seriously.
In 2020, Callimachi was reassigned at the Times and will no longer cover terrorism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/caliphate-rev...
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by fortuna86 on Monday July 26, 2021 @12:03PM
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Correct. The bar isn't "we never make mistakes". They are human, everybody messes up. The question is, what happens when you do? Issuing a correction is the best standard we can hope for.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by chewmieser on Monday July 26, 2021 @08:51AM
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Fair but that also stemmed from their own reporting that their own coverage was flawed...
It makes me trust them more since they're auditing themselves like that. Shows high journalistic integrity.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by the-dude on Monday July 26, 2021 @08:53AM
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What do you mean? They did not uncover themselves that the WMDs did not exist.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by dd36 on Monday July 26, 2021 @09:14AM
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They shared it with their audience. The standard isn’t always be right, it’s have integrity.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by the-dude on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:51AM
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Everybody shared it with 'the audience'. The WMDs were obviously not there, were they? Hard to keep it up.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by colinmhayes on Monday July 26, 2021 @12:34PM
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Everyone in the government was saying they were there. Not reporting that would be negligent. Should NYT have been faster at reporting the truth? Of course. But when the president says there are weapons of mass destruction you report as much.
The NYT retracted the story, which is pretty much all I can hope for in a situation like this.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by Covzire on Monday July 26, 2021 @09:33AM
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One way outlets like the NYT slant their credibility into the ground is by always giving Democrats the benefit of any doubt, and never giving it to anyone else. Everything that could be good for Democrats is amplified to 11, everything that could be a bad look for everyone else is amplified to 11 in the other direction. They appear to be a lot more reliable than they actually are.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by wussboy on Monday July 26, 2021 @10:02AM
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Your comment is neither an example nor evidence.
Re:Disinformation for hire, a shadow industry, is quietly bo...
by colinmhayes on Monday July 26, 2021 @12:35PM
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Source?