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Re:Finland provides housing and counseling to the homeless (... by onlyrealcuzzo on Sunday July 25, 2021 @12:58PM (#27950783)
Something is seriously wrong if it costs $150k per year to be homeless in SF.

6 years ago, I lived there quite comfortably making only $70k BEFORE taxes, and was able to save a decent bit per year on top of that.

Even now, I /only/ spend $90k per year - and my lifestyle is quite extravagant.

It's just out of control if it costs almost twice as much money to have almost nothing.

Re:Finland provides housing and counseling to the homeless (... by whoknowswhat11 on Sunday July 25, 2021 @01:35PM (#27951180)
SF does $600 million to $800 million per year just through DHSH.

My guess is around 300 - 400 million through other depts (SF DPH etc). Behavioral health services alone run $500M and DPH is at $2.4 billion in their budget.

I'm excluding Fire / Police / MOCD / other services (there are a ton).

Rough numbers maybe $1B/year? for 8-12,000 folks?

This is both very large, but SF probably only spends around 8-10% of budget on this - the SF budget is very large.

Re:Finland provides housing and counseling to the homeless (... by mardifoufs on Sunday July 25, 2021 @05:43PM (#27953189)
That's crazy! I know american cities handle services that are handled at a provincial level here in Canada but the budget for the city of Montreal is only around 6B$ in Canadian dollars. And that's with all the costs that come from snow removal and the never ending repairs our roads need due to winter damage.
Re:Finland provides housing and counseling to the homeless (... by whoknowswhat11 on Sunday July 25, 2021 @06:22PM (#27953496)
Montreal is much larger though I think? Sf is 800K or so in population
Re:Finland provides housing and counseling to the homeless (... by lazide on Sunday July 25, 2021 @01:43PM (#27951243)
You also presumably were able to manage your own affairs, had a reputation and connections that meant you could get safe living quarters without being assaulted or having your stuff stolen, weren’t leaving dangerous biohazards around someone else needed to be paid to deal with - all of that adds up.