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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by gsich on Sunday July 25, 2021 @07:09AM (#27948293)
>The common Linux interfaces are very easy to decipher and have a good usability.

CLI? Absolutely.

Desktop interfaces are an inconsistent mess.

Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by deltaonefour on Sunday July 25, 2021 @10:19AM (#27949351)
The CLI I would argue sucks. Compared with powershell? Powershell is better designed.

But that's besides the point. CLIs in itself are harder to use than GUI and the entire FOSS ecosystem biases itself towards CLI. So that in itself is a marker for inferior usability.

With training a CLI can be made superior in many aspects to a GUI. But it takes training and mostly only people in IT are willing to go through this training. Overall from a common users' standpoint, GUIs are superior.

Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by majkinetor on Sunday July 25, 2021 @10:37AM (#27949465)
We can have both tho. What stops you to use funky GUI to tidy up things then have 'export to powershell' command ?
Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by deltaonefour on Sunday July 25, 2021 @11:12AM (#27949714)
Yeah but overall in windows or OSX you can use the entire OS without touching the command line. Not so for linux. Most linux users are using both a GUI and a shell window under the GUI. That's the point.
Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by fragileone on Sunday July 25, 2021 @07:58AM (#27948506)
Most Linux users use GNOME or KDE, which are easy to use and far more customisable than Win10.

If you want to branch out to less popular DEs then of course you should be prepared for it being less polished, but does any Linux newbie really expect dozens of super polished DEs?

Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by gsich on Sunday July 25, 2021 @06:22PM (#27953491)
If this is polished [1] then it's a sorry state. This was taken a few years ago, programs were iirc Eclipse, Libreoffice and an editor. I don't care if it's the DEs fault, Qt, GTK ... the same programs have consistency if run on Windows. I don't care what order (or naming), as long as it's consistent. (ie Save, Close without, Cancel)

This is muscle memory. No shortcuts are not an alternative, merely a workaround. The underlying issue would still be there.

Unfortunately Android has taken over this inconsistency, probably because there is nobody that enforces it. "Mark as read" and "Reply" in the notifications are sometimes left/right, sometimes reversed. Yes/no questions are sometimes left, sometimes right. Snooze vs. alarm cancel too. What a disaster.

[1] https://i.imgur.com/wv3yFbZ.png