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Re:Self hosting is important by bob1029 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:17AM (#27940692)
What incentive does Amazon have to fight against the government on your behalf?
Re:Self hosting is important by xwolfi on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:31AM (#27941237)
I left open a proxy by mistake on an ovh server years ago, for 4 days. People found it and used it for fraud.

A few months later, all my personal gmail account are seized and I reveive an email (that I could read after changing my password) from a police department in god fuck knows where middle of nowhere countryside asking me for data on the proxy usage.

Sadly I had revoked the server subscription since I didnt need it anymore (and probably hadnt kept any logs anyway since I was just playing aroud with a server) but I really really wanted to help.

I mean, it s rare the police would call you for a legitimate usage and political suppression. They call you for fraud with damage and it s awful being responsible in small part but unable to help... I was not mad they read all my emails, I was sorry someone lost money because of my mistake.

Re:Self hosting is important by infogulch on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:41AM (#27941832)
> left open a proxy .. People found it and used it for fraud

Maybe I haven't had enough coffee, but I'm failing to connect how leaving a proxy open was a major enabler for fraud. What kind of fraud?

Re:Self hosting is important by ceejayoz on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:40AM (#27940846)
The trust of their customers?
Re:Self hosting is important by paganel on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:43AM (#27940871)
Afaik the US Government is a big Amazon customer.
Re:Self hosting is important by ceejayoz on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:45AM (#27940886)
I would imagine that particular customer would rather Amazon not quietly honor, say, a Russian subpoena for their data.
Re:Self hosting is important by synchrone on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:06AM (#27941046)
does it mean you have to put your data into Yandex or Alibaba Cloud if you wanna avoid USG quietly getting it?
Re:Self hosting is important by coldtea on Saturday July 24, 2021 @12:24PM (#27942220)
The problem for an Amazon hosted server is US subpoenas, not Russian or European or whatever...
Re:Self hosting is important by ceejayoz on Sunday July 25, 2021 @08:30AM (#27948686)
Amazon has AWS regions in six continents.
Re:Self hosting is important by johnklos on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:38AM (#27941810)
Ha ha ha ha ha...

Amazon? Trust? People trust Amazon to exist and to bill. Providing services to those who pay the bills is almost incidental.