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Re:A 3°C world has no safe place by lotsofpulp on Friday July 23, 2021 @06:57PM (#27936590)
> I look at what I can do about this. I can turn up the temp in my room, and the house.

> So what do I do? know what we're doing is what we can

Everything you do is inconsequential in the face of living in a detached single family home on a quarter acre lot.

That very simple fact has exponential knock on effects requiring so much more mass to move so much further and hence consuming so much more energy, that everything else you do is meaningless.

The only solution was reducing total consumption, either per capita or capitas itself, but the former is not going to happen if people live in insufficiently dense manners that preclude public transport or walking and bicycling, and necessitate large roads, parking lots, and personal vehicles.

And of course, once you own or benefit from detached single family house lifestyles, you are not going to vote for anything that inconveniences you or causes you to reduce consumption, such as increased taxes on fossil fuels.

Re:A 3°C world has no safe place by ip26 on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:07PM (#27936660)
If we could wave a magic wand & cut global energy consumption in half via more public transit & denser living, but still burning fossil fuels... we would have the exact same crisis, perhaps delayed a few years.

I'm naturally inclined towards austerity, but this problem cannot be fixed with cutbacks & efficiency alone.

Re:A 3°C world has no safe place by simonh on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:12PM (#27936699)
Not at all, reducing global energy consumption by half would massively reduce, as well as delay the total long term impact. It’s true a lot of impact is baked in due to past emissions, but that’s no reason for complacency or fatalism. There still a lot we can do to reduce total impact and mitigate the impact we will suffer.
Re:A 3°C world has no safe place by ip26 on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:22PM (#27936792)
I don't advocate complacency or fatalism, instead I've come to hold the opinion that rapidly shifting to low/zero carbon technology is our best shot. Just look at how quickly natural gas felled king coal - a matter of years - once it became significantly cheaper. (We can't stop at natural gas, but it does produce half the CO2 as coal)

Similarly, there is a huge market-driven surge in renewables: https://coloradosun.com/2021/01/25/solar-energy-colorado-uni...

A key part of this viewpoint is that strong demand in the market can actually be an accelerator.

Turning back to austerity - even if a 50% drop in demand could save us, it's just never going to happen. Even the global COVID lockdowns made less than a 10% cut in energy consumption. You'd be stunningly successful if you cut even 1% through austerity campaign.

Re:A 3°C world has no safe place by zepto on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:23PM (#27936806)
> if people live in insufficiently dense manners

Dense living is associated with poorer mental health and a variety of diseases, and that not taking into account people with autism, introversion etc, some of whom find urban density neurologically intolerable.

Humans didn’t evolve to live densely.