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Re:Enough is enough by igorzx31 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:05PM (#27909791)
NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.
Re:Enough is enough by nindalf on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:13PM (#27909902)
It’s an Israeli weapon, subject to arms control legislation. But that legislation can only be authored by Israel itself. So it doesn’t matter what other countries outlaw, Israel will continue to authorise NSO to sell the software to state actors around the world.

Israel could always do with an extra friend or two and providing this software gains them a friend while costing them nothing.

Re:Enough is enough by sudosysgen on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:21PM (#27910015)
It really doesn't cost them nothing - it makes them the target to offensive operations of other states. I'd be very, very surprised if NSO itself isn't hacked.
Re:Enough is enough by praptak on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:31PM (#27910149)
Israel is not immune from international pressure though.
Re:Enough is enough by tyrrvk on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:56PM (#27910496)
Um, they kind of are? Or at least think they are? Any sort of international pressure is met with cries of 'anti-semitism' which quickly shuts down anyone. It is used to combat the BDS movement, which itself is intended to put pressure on Israel over the occupation of Palestine. A non-violent option similar to what happened with South Africa.
Re:Enough is enough by arkitaip on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:09PM (#27909851)
Attacking NSO would be like attacking the Israeli government and you don't do that because your PM's shitty OpSec was exposed.
Re:Enough is enough by fabianhjr on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:17PM (#27909969)
The only overtly pro-nomatterwhat-Israel government is the United States so at most 1 of the 193 countries in the United Nations would avoid regulating NSO on international relations grounds.
Re:Enough is enough by igorzx31 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:49PM (#27910393)
That is not true at all. The US is just as critical of Israel as many other countries.
Re:Enough is enough by sudosysgen on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:19PM (#27909992)
This is actually one of the best reasons to hack another government.
Re:Enough is enough by igorzx31 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:11PM (#27909877)
Remember the Israelis also need allies.
Re:Enough is enough by threatofrain on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:50PM (#27910401)
Allies are allies because of strategic positioning, and many of Israel's proximal allies are authoritarian nations who have interest in this kind of technology. Israel's strategic value hardly shifted at all from this slate of embarrassing news.
Re:Enough is enough by Gibbon1 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:40PM (#27910261)
The Israeli's have two allies of note, the US and Saudi Arabia. Everyone else dislikes to hates them.

The geopolitical clout of the US and Saudi Arabia are in decline.

Re:Enough is enough by igorzx31 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:50PM (#27910402)
Europe like them, kind of, many other gulf states, China, many african countries, I can go on and on
Re:Enough is enough by IncludeSecurity on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:07PM (#27909822)
I'd guess that those same presidents will call them up and buy. They'd rather be a customer than try and change a behemoth with political power like these guys.
Re:Enough is enough by tomjen3 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:12PM (#27909899)
Unlikely. If anything this is good PR: look we have this great tool that can hack anything and we will totally sell it to shit countries run by tin pot dictators.

The only way this backfires is if somebody sends men with guns after them.

Re:Enough is enough by fighterpilot on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:19PM (#27909993)
What evidence is there that a PM has been hacked? Their number was on the list but haven't seen anything about Pegasus having been found on their devices.