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Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by coldtea on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:55AM (#27903561)
(1) Regular police (as opposed to SWAT or SWAT-like equipped units) are dispatched for things that are not riots

(2) Police checks and verifies first, as opposed to kicking doors in shooting because a 13 year old made a call.

(3) Police is taught not to be trigger happy, even if there are reports - or actual sighting - of the suspect carrying a gun, knife, etc.

(4) Police doesn't get military surplus equipment fit for war, nor does it use it in civillian cases.

(5) Police doesn't equate a report of someone selling/doing drugs, with a chance to storm the place guns a blazing.

(6) Traffic police doesn't get to shoot you if they stopped your car and you had the audacity to walk out towards them. That's not even a thing.

(7) The police is taught to discern low-risk and high-risk situations, and not e.g. treat a guy with a knife 30 feet away, or a small black boy playing in a park as a threat.

(8) The police is taught to be an aid to the citizen, not to see everybody as a threat.

Some pointers:

https://www.amazon.com/SWAT-Madness-Militarization-American-...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/police-militarization-f...

https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/06/poisoning-our-police-h...

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/885942130/militarization-of-p...

Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by detaro on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @04:06AM (#27903636)
The entire point here is that almost none of those generic (but very real!) issues really apply in this specific case for once (especially given the call number2 applies a bit, as I already said). "Police responding to a call about a shooter are armed, actually encounter someone with a gun, point guns and tell them to drop it, gun gets dropped, nobody gets shot" sounds like something that could happen in many places and is not a useful example for cops being way to fast to shoot people.
Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by coldtea on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @07:52AM (#27905056)
>The entire point here is that almost none of those generic (but very real!) issues really apply in this specific case

Yes, but we already covered that - that it's not specifically about this case.

Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by thomastjeffery on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:21PM (#27910024)
Even specific to this case, the reality of surrounding circumstances and events is significant.

We very recently had country-wide protests on the topic of police brutality with very minimal consequnce.

Those surrounding circumstances almost certainly informed this man's decision to own a firearm and his decision to brandish that firearm while figuring out what was happening on his property.

The assumption here is that the stress of the situation was the cause of his heart attack, and ultimately his death.

What ever happened to giving someone a phone call to assess the situation?

Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by SpelingBeeChamp on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:43AM (#27918186)
SWAT teams in the United States are primarily used for serving high-risk warrants. Their purpose is not riot control.
Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by coldtea on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:16PM (#27946108)
Many high-risk warrants are issue over BS, like "this guy is selling marijuana".
Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by SpelingBeeChamp on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @09:13AM (#28060619)
Mind supporting that with evidence?
Re:Man dies of a heart attack after minors swatted him over ... by dvfjsdhgfv on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @04:02AM (#27903607)
> It's not just that there are fewer guns elsewhere

I'm sorry but it seems to be the main factor though. When the probability of the suspect carrying a gun is very low, you are not that motivated to use yours.

> (many countries have heavy hunting population, and people will use shotguns, close themselves in their house if they're accused, etc).

That's completely different. You can't really hide your hunting weapon in your jacket. People don't walk around with their weapons in the town. The culture is completely different. Even in a country where many people do own weapons (Switzerland) it's very rare that someone would use them for crime.