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Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by IntelMiner on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:35AM (#27903002)
I'm not sure what paradise is to be drawn at billionaires racing each other to space while the planet we all live on is in shambles on so many levels
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by taway_scott on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:45AM (#27903045)
I think you should read this: https://launiusr.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/why-explore-space-...

I had similar views until 5 years ago and questioned almost every new investment/endeavour by people that required significant upfront capital investment but I think this letter has changed a lot of my thinking process.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by input_sh on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:00AM (#27903152)
There's no "space exploration" to be done 50-70 miles above ground. Billionaires charging other billionaires for 10 minutes above the imaginary "space line" has nothing to do with space exploration.
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by t0mbstone on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @01:43PM (#27909475)
The future of space is NOT "exploration" for the sake of exploration.

The future of space is going to involve a lot of robots, a lot of mining other planets for resources, and a lot of space stations made from those resources.

Bezos is planning for a future where all polluting industry is moved to outer space instead of being done here on Earth. He has publicly stated this on multiple occasions recently.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by blooalien on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @04:40PM (#27911853)
> Bezos is planning for a future where all polluting industry is moved to outer space instead of being done here on Earth.

Highly doubtful …

> He has publicly stated this on multiple occasions recently.

He can say whatever he likes. I still don't trust that he cares about anything beyond amassing personal control of more money/resources.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by taway_scott on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:04AM (#27903180)
Sure if you want to be pedantic. My response to the parent comment was more around trying to provide a possible answer to a natural question of "Why spend so much money on anything new while there are several million problems to be solved on Earth?".

And I don't think 50-70 miles is going to be the norm. This is more of a "test" flight, which is pretty normal. Everything has to start somewhere with a baby step.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by input_sh on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:50AM (#27903518)
> And I don't think 50-70 miles is going to be the norm.

It is going to be for the foreseeable future, and I'll tell you two reasons why:

1. FAA and USAF considers everyone that's been above 50 miles (~62 kilometres) as an astronaut.

2. Von Karman line (at 100 kilometres, or 62 miles) is the closest we have to the consensus over what constitutes "space".

We could've drawn it pretty much everywhere because Earth's atmosphere disappears gradually, but these are nice round numbers previously agreed upon.

Therefore, if you're after commercial space flights (like Bezos and Branson are), that's the minimum you need to do to be able to charge millions for a "space flight". There is no incentive to go above that for commercial purposes.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by zpeti on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:49AM (#27903063)
By basically any metric the world is the best place for humans it's ever been. Absolutely poverty has collapsed over the last few decades and will be non existent in about 15-20 years.

Basically every human has gotten access to all the world's information in the last 10-15 years (unless their government has a firewall).

The fact that 2 people want to actually do something that is extremely inspriring to most non-envious and resentful people is a result of the fact that humanity has massively improved it's state of living recently.

And btw, generally doing inspiring things and failing forwards is much better at improving things. Just have a look at how Tesla has radically changed the car industry and turned it electric. Without Tesla the car industry would be doing fuck all to turn electric.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by bosie on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:52AM (#27903090)
> Absolutely poverty has collapsed over the last few decades and will be non existent in about 15-20 years.

care to expand on why it is extinct in 15 years?

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by zpeti on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:06AM (#27903200)
Look at the graph, and project is forwards
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by moogly on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:09AM (#27903226)
> Absolutely poverty has collapsed over the last few decades and will be non existent in about 15-20 years.

Did you mean to use some completely different word in place of "poverty" there? Because I'm flabbergasted at this statement.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by peakaboo on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:53AM (#27903102)
The world's information is heavily censored, mate. People have no freedom to even disagree anymore.
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by EvilEy3 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:50AM (#27903076)
> while the planet we all live on is in shambles on so many levels

Literally on the brink of extinction now.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by IntelMiner on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:59AM (#27903146)
It's a strange, almost comforting feeling?

Knowing that even with the wealth to achieve something that once took entire nations to blast off into space for a few minutes, they're still as doomed as the rest of us to perish on this indifferent rock

No man is an island, even with all the wealth in the world. All that wealth is meaningless when everyone else is gone anyhow

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by EvilEy3 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:12AM (#27903253)
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it was a sarcasm.

Planet will survive, it is incredibly ignorant to think that it even cares about pest that are humans.

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by IntelMiner on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:14AM (#27903271)
That's why I said "indifferent rock"

No matter how much money any of them have, they can't outrun the planet itself moving on without us

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by wrnr on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:45AM (#27903040)
Why put salt on your potatoes while there are still people starving of hunger. Envy the billies all you want it won't make their live any worse or that of the poor any better.
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by 123pie123 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:59AM (#27903140)
I envy the billionaire bank balance, but it's not the money that makes you happy (above a certain level) but the options it allows you to do.

obviously people are not keen on the actions /options that JB has choosen to make. Especially when you hear the stories of his employees and how much tax he pays

Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by 8note on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:28AM (#27905953)
If you're gonna take the salt from the starving person to do it, it's probably a good idea to skip the salt
Re:Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than ... by zpeti on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:50AM (#27903069)
To people like the commenter it's much better if everyone is suffering than if some people aren't and some are.