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Re:How Bell’s Theorem proved ‘spooky action at a distance’ i... by lazide on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @05:22PM (#27899537)
Ah, but that’s the tough part - there IS a measurable difference in behavior of the universe between these two examples! (albeit hard to experimentally prove exists, but it has been!)

They really are in a superposition, not just ‘not known’ until one is measured.

Just like light was proven to (truly, actually) be both a light and a wave through the double slit experiments. It doesn’t feel right, but it is - and that is where the progress is made, and why the pushback on some examples. It hides the actual truth behind a misleading, but easy to understand example, that teaches people the opposite of what is really going on.

Re:How Bell’s Theorem proved ‘spooky action at a distance’ i... by bdamm on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @05:58PM (#27899913)
It could also be that we simply don’t understand something about light phase, and that’s causing us to get confused about superpositions. After all, the experiments aren’t on single photons, they are on beams of photons.
Re:How Bell’s Theorem proved ‘spooky action at a distance’ i... by lazide on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @07:39PM (#27900594)
Not sure if we're confusing threads here - double slit experiments have been run on single photons and the results are pretty conclusive. Even a single photon is a wave that interferes with itself.

I would expect similar here. Intuition is terrible at understanding what is going on at the atomic and smaller level, or anywhere relativistic anything is happening.

Re:How Bell’s Theorem proved ‘spooky action at a distance’ i... by bdamm on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @07:55PM (#27900711)
Not confusing threads; the double slit experiment is often given as evidence of superposition. My attempts at replicating the experiment myself have been foiled because it inevitably goes to phase calculations on lasers, which I don't have any idea how to do. I keep looking for a way to do this famous and supposedly simple experiment, but haven't found a way yet. In any case, when I go deep on what is there (as a layman) it inevitably seems to result in phase measurements as the smoking gun proving superpositions exist at all.