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Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by k33n on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @12:09PM (#27895584)
It's hilarious that this perfectly rational and fact based remark is downvoted. This place has gone full blue anon.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by amcoastal on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @12:25PM (#27895817)
Its hilarious that you don't read the article to realize the comment is wrong. Surprise, confirmation bias strikes again.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by gruez on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @04:43PM (#27899031)
>Its hilarious that you don't read the article to realize the comment is wrong

Sure, if you take the article at face value. The key argument seems to be "more than half of hospitality workers who've quit said no amount of pay would get them to return". On the surface that might suggest that people are getting out for non-monetary reasons (ie. not related to pandemic relief), I'm skeptical whether that's actually the case. It's easy to tell yourself and the pollster that "no amount of pay" would make you go back when the government has been paying you unemployment for the last 16 months. When unemployment ends and the bills pile up, I suspect a good chunk of them would eventually go back.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by k33n on Thursday July 29, 2021 @02:05PM (#27999501)
Textbook projection!
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @03:44PM (#27898325)
As I understand it, you don't get unemployment benefits if you quit, making it irrelevant flamebait on an article about quitting.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by luffapi on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @12:20PM (#27895749)
It’s neither rational nor fact based. The government isn’t “paying people to sit at home” it’s providing the bare semblance of a social safety net (kind of, not really) in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic. Hopefully these changes become permanent because automation continues to decrease the need for workers and wealth inequality continues to pressure the working class at historically high levels.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by gruez on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @03:18PM (#27897983)
>It’s neither rational nor fact based. The government isn’t “paying people to sit at home” it’s providing the bare semblance of a social safety net (kind of, not really) in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic.

That might be the intent, but that's irrelevant to the actual distortionary effects that it causes on the job market that gp is talking about.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by luffapi on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @07:26PM (#27900517)
If it was fact based they would have provided those facts. They didn’t. It’s also highly irrational to suggest the government is paying people to sit at home, since they are not.

The comment was correctly flagged dead for being flamebait.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by gruez on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @08:29PM (#27900913)
>If it was fact based they would have provided those facts.

What facts do we need here? That the program exists? I doubt that's in dispute.

>It’s also highly irrational to suggest the government is paying people to sit at home, since they are not.

1. I think the "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." guideline[1] applies here. The weaker interpretation you seem to be using is "the government's unemployment policy was deliberately designed to get people to stay at home" (as opposed to providing safety net), but the stronger interpretation would be "the government is effectively paying people to stay at home by enacting a policy that gives people money, but will withdraw it should they find work".

2. An argument could be made that the government literally wants people to stay home, as a matter of policy. After all, there would be much less people complying with stay-at-home orders if they ran out of cash, couldn't buy food, and had to find a job.

>for being flamebait.

I fail to see how that's the case. If the commenter called the people on unemployment "lazy" or whatever, you may have a point, but they didn't.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by k33n on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @04:15PM (#27898703)
It's entirely rational and fact based, but it does threaten the worldview of the people who parrot everything they hear in mainstream media. Americans will never let "the new normal" be permanent, and only the grossly uninformed hope otherwise.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by glasss on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @12:17PM (#27895708)
To be fair, it isn't entirely fact based - the article highlights someone who collects / collected unemployment.