Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbán were targeted with Pegasus

Re:Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbán were targeted ... by AlexandrB on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @09:09AM (#27893252)

The conditions that allowed Hitler to rise to power were created by the "winners" of WWI with the treaty of Versailles. These are not masses of sheep being led around by brilliant propaganda, they're often people who don't think they have anything to lose by voting for the extreme nationalist over the status quo.

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Re:Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbán were targeted ... by rbanffy on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @10:52AM (#27894465)

While true, this was not the root cause any more than keeping tons of explosives together in a port warehouse didn't cause the explosion in Beirut.

You are right in the sense that eradicating poverty will probably have a stabilizing effect on many societies, but, in Brazil at least, it wasn't the poorest who supported the rise of fascism - this was driven mostly by the middle class.

In Germany it was the hate speech, the scapegoating, the xenophobia of the nazi discourse, the framing of other people as sub-human, evil and unworthy of living. This led to seemingly normal people inflicting unspeakable evil upon others. And it's frighteningly easy to make a human do that.

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Re:Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbán were targeted ... by Bayart on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:26AM (#27894895)

>The conditions that allowed Hitler to rise to power were created by the "winners" of WWI with the treaty of Versailles.

That's quite literally Nazi propaganda, although the narrative was born in the US with Keynes as Americans were oddly keen on washing the Germans of their sins, shifting the blame everywhere else and go back to business as usual.

The Treaty of Versailles was nothing particularly odious, Germany could have coped with it fine if it stuck to the terms. It didn't, it broke its economy on purpose to avoid honoring the treaty.

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