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Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by rvz on Sunday July 18, 2021 @05:32PM (#27876894)
That's great news but how do users go about 'installing it' right now?

I think the comments in 9to5mac are just as bewildered as I and many users are. By the time a guide is written, they would have moved on to getting an M1X or M2 Macbook, still waiting.

It's only got kernel support, but is actually still not 'user ready'. Could take months for that to happen.

Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by deaddodo on Sunday July 18, 2021 @05:36PM (#27876920)
You don't. Asahi is far away from usable. They've got initial kernel support in, which allows it to boot. However no drivers have been written yet, there's nothing ready in the userspace and it definitely doesn't have an installer.

* Not decrying Asahi, they've done a lot of work and continue to do so. But it's best not to misrepresent the project's status.

Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by marcan_42 on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:40AM (#27879607)
Your description isn't quite accurate either. IRQ, DART drivers have been written; I2C, UART, NVMe, USB, PCI, USB-C/PD, Wi-Fi drivers have been adapted.

I'm currently working on reverse engineering the display controller and will move onto the GPU after that. Alyssa has been working on the GPU userspace stack and the GLES2 tests are 80% or so passing, running mesa on macOS (open source userspace, Apple's kernel driver).

I've spent a lot of time brainstorming the installer and researching the approach, and we already have manual install guide. I'll work on that as soon as the GPU kernel stuff is on track.

As for userspace, there's nothing to be done for basic support; you can install any distro userspace you like. The main things there are the Mesa driver and, eventually, helpers for stuff like the Touch Bar (obviously we'll get the non-TB Macs running nicely earlier, TB is an annoying complication).

Things are in various stages of development and review, and yes, only IRQ, UART and basic bring-up is upstreamed, but I think you'll find things get to end-user usability a lot faster than you might think.

Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by rvz on Sunday July 18, 2021 @05:51PM (#27877008)
> They've got initial kernel support in, which allows it to boot. However no drivers have been written yet, there's nothing ready in the userspace and it definitely doesn't have an installer.

Exactly my point as I have already said. We know it is not user ready but the parent comment is making as if it is already running on M1 Macs; which is hardly true.

To debunk the M1 Linux hype squad again, it does not work to the point of it being usable and will take months to get it 'user ready'.

Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by SheinhardtWigCo on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:40AM (#27879610)
It'll never be "user ready". It'll be like a Hackintosh: a quaint toy for hobbyists that is constantly broken by Apple's new stuff and therefore unlivable as a daily driver. Only the most fanatical folks would be willing to live on a flavor of Linux that can only survive hardware revisions through extensive reverse engineering efforts. I say this despite having a huge amount of respect for the developers.
Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by marcan_42 on Monday July 19, 2021 @02:06AM (#27879716)
My job description is literally to prove you wrong :-)
Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by rdaystrom on Sunday July 18, 2021 @09:37PM (#27878366)
I'm hoping it will be 'user ready' by the time the M5 multitronic Macbook comes out. That will be the ultimate computer.
Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday July 19, 2021 @12:02AM (#27879124)
Until the M7 ... or M9 ... or some not-so-power-savvy-but-beast of a Ryzen shows up ... or ....
Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by rdaystrom on Monday July 19, 2021 @03:52AM (#27880210)
Hopefully Captain Kirk doesn't end up destroying the M7 or M9. That would be annoying.
Re:The Perils of M1 Ownership by brokenmachine on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @01:35AM (#27902681)
Direct anal interface to Apple HQ. Can't wait.