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Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by kixiQu on Friday July 16, 2021 @11:06AM (#27857007)
Let's zoom out from the rights of that individual minor, too. If you believe in the role of police in society, you want kids to be able to trust them. You can't teach your kids to trust someone who may lie to them with horrific consequences.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by stronglikedan on Friday July 16, 2021 @01:22PM (#27858666)
If you're teaching your children to trust police, you're doing them a disservice. They should be taught to respect authority figures that are not their direct family, but never, ever trust their intentions.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by kixiQu on Friday July 16, 2021 @04:13PM (#27860712)
Well, I don't really believe in the institution of police as it exists, so if I even had kids, I'd pass along the same paranoia my father taught me... but it just strikes me as a meaningful inconsistency in the image of police that their supporters have.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by yardie on Friday July 16, 2021 @01:40PM (#27858884)
That ship sailed along. In the interest of putting the police force ahead of the community it is supposed to protect the police have burned lots of goodwill. Even now being called police is considered an insult amongst the youth. It used to be snitch, narc, or opp. Now you’re called “12” when you’re not to be trusted.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by Miner49er on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:34PM (#27858029)
The police's rule in society is to enforce the law. I don't think they need kids to trust them to do that?
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by adchari on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:51PM (#27858224)
Enforcing the law becomes a lot harder when a community lacks trust in you, and kids who don't trust police officers turn into adults who don't trust police officers, and teach their children the same thing.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by kixiQu on Friday July 16, 2021 @04:15PM (#27860732)
Bog-standard "if you get lost and separated from your parents" child-advice is to ask for help from exactly such figures as police, with the idea that this would protect them from ostensibly less savory options
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by jMyles on Friday July 16, 2021 @05:25PM (#27861412)
I certainly don't tell my child that, and I don't know of any American parents who do.

Police represent the interests of the state, not the interests of my child.

Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by kixiQu on Friday July 16, 2021 @08:15PM (#27862580)
> I don't know of any American parents who do.

Really?

https://www.allprodad.com/things-your-child-should-know-when... > The best people to seek out would be the police, security guards, the fire department, and store management and employees. If these can’t be found, teach them to seek a mom with young children.

http://achildsworldnc.com/teach-kids-case-get-lost/ > Advise children that if they need assistance they should only approach someone such as a security guard, police officer or someone who is clearly a member of the staff.

I mean, I know these are just random internet things -- but I vaguely remember that advice even being in kids' books when I was growing up.

Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by salawat on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:11PM (#27863084)
I remember receiving that advice as well, but would be less likely to perpetuate it given the frequency of weaponization of the State against parents. If I knew the community, I might advise the latter.
Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by jMyles on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:25AM (#27865606)
> I mean, I know these are just random internet things -- but I vaguely remember that advice even being in kids' books when I was growing up.

Yes, I think it used to be common. But I don't think it is nearly as much so now.