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Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by kwhitefoot on Friday July 16, 2021 @07:41AM (#27855259)
The Netherlands is a net exporter of food and it does this by producing what people want to eat. See https://aboutthenetherlands.com/why-does-the-netherlands-exp...

Why should we have to change what we eat? Surely taking that choice away takes away part of what we are, reduces our autonomy.

Why switch to seaweed when we can already produce what we already know we want?

Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by belorn on Friday July 16, 2021 @09:09AM (#27855835)
My point is primarily that we are not going to run out of edible food. I have no intention to try force anyone to change their culture.

Here in Sweden we eat fermented fish. Other countries eat ferment cabbage, beans, goat stomachs, or other fermented things which in my culture we would be weird to eat. I think fermented seaweed is also a thing somewhere.

There are things that could force a culture change, such as famine, war, social status signals, media, and religion to mention a few examples. Humans are social creatures, and culture is a social phenomenon, so the cause for a cultural change would likely be social in nature. I guess a societal collapse could also trigger a change in culture, or a cultural change could prevent a societal collapse. I guess it depend on how one want to perceive it, and what meaning people put into the word "societal collapse".

Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by tarsinge on Friday July 16, 2021 @09:10AM (#27855841)
I don’t see that convincing, a huge part of what we eat currently is the result of marketing (sugar, meat, dairy…), very anecdotical for defining oneself and the future of human society.
Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by slackfan on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:57AM (#27856903)
Apropos of nothing, the Soviet Union was also a net-exporter of wheat during the Holodomor. There's a lot of ways to be a net exporter.
Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by adolph on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:04AM (#27856328)
"Net exporter" in terms of calories and protein or "net exporter" in terms of currency? The Netherlands ag economy is focused on high value crops. But you can't eat tulips.

One-third of the world's exports of chilis, tomatoes, and cucumbers goes through the country. The Netherlands also exports one-fifteenth of the world's apples.

Aside from that, a significant portion of Dutch agricultural exports consists of fresh-cut plants, flowers, and flower bulbs, with the Netherlands exporting two-thirds of the world's total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by caskstrength on Friday July 16, 2021 @01:58PM (#27859130)
I can assure you that nobody actually _wants_ to eat tasteless dutch tomatoes.
Re:My take on the study from MIT that predicts “societal col... by kwhitefoot on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:58PM (#27867104)
I can agree with that!