Re:Tesla’s new patent involves using table salt to mine lithium
by sumtechguy on Friday July 16, 2021 @11:28AM
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> If you compare a Tesla with a BMW, the Tesla already might be cheaper, it certainly is if you consider the TCO
Having owned a few BMW's I do not doubt that assertion at all.
Hydrogen has a storage problem. As in the stuff is wickedly hard to keep from 'evaporating'. Electric has a charge time/range problem. I can fill an ICE car in 10 mins and drive 400 miles. The same thing with electric takes an hour. For 'day to day' use electric is like almost there (up front cost being one of the bigger issues). For long range drivers, not yet.
Re:Tesla’s new patent involves using table salt to mine lithium
by emko7 on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:35PM
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Plus a semi can haul like 5tons more instead of dead weight. I can see batteries working for regular cars but for trucks no.
Re:Tesla’s new patent involves using table salt to mine lithium
by _ph_ on Monday July 19, 2021 @05:24AM
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The weight difference for an electric Semi is rather 2t or less. Also, slightly larger total weights could be allowed for electric Semis.
Re:Tesla’s new patent involves using table salt to mine lithium
by cogman10 on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:27AM
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Because of the distribution problem, my assumption is that hydrogen will be confined to easy to distribute transportation if at all. That's shipping, airlines, maybe trains (though trains really should be made electric)
Meanwhile, hydrogen cars are much more expensive than battery electric cars, there are only a few models available at all and there are few filling stations - they are really expensive to build. On top of that, distribution of the hydrogen is much more complex than using the power grid for electricity. And you can charge an electric car at basically any outlet, if need requires.
But the largest problem is, that for renewable hydrogen, we need about 3x as much as electricity than using a battery electric vehicle. Not counting anything else, this is 3x the cost.