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Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by chirau on Thursday July 15, 2021 @07:59AM (#27843731)
Whataboutism is tiresome. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by falcor84 on Thursday July 15, 2021 @08:09AM (#27843793)
... but three lefts do.

I'm not looking to defend Gawker, but I believe that comparing it and its impact versus competitors/substitutes is absolutely relevant.

Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by jgalt212 on Thursday July 15, 2021 @08:18AM (#27843869)
whataboutism the empirically based. For that reason along, I feel I must entertain its arguments.
Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by merpnderp on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:10AM (#27844235)
Whataboutism is just a word hypocrites invented to avoid acknowledging their blatant hypocrisy.
Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by teddyh on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:23AM (#27844357)
Accusations of hypocrisy is only an ad-hominem argument; i.e. a fallacy.
Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by merpnderp on Friday July 16, 2021 @05:53PM (#27861682)
Lol, no. Hypocrisy is a type of lying. You say you care about something for a reason, but actually only care about it for another often less persuasive reason.

You see it all the time in politics where people are outraged at X when the other party does it, but can't be assed to care when X is done by their own party. They're lying that they care about X. The truth is they're using it as a lie for political power.

Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by teddyh on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:27AM (#27866438)
I don't agree, but even if you were right, how is an accusation of lying still not an ad-hominem argument?

- "I think that this other person did a bad thing X."

- "You're lying, your other actions show that you don't really think X is a bad thing."

How is that an argument? The issue was originally that some other person did a bad thing X, but the second person above changed it to attack the first person making the argument, and accused the first person about lying about what they really think. Is this not an ad-hominem?

Re:Gawker Is Dead and Deserved to Die (2017) by pessimizer on Thursday July 15, 2021 @08:20AM (#27843886)
Whataboutism is one of the major forces that ended Jim Crow in the US.