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Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by pydry on Thursday July 15, 2021 @05:17AM (#27842801)
There's no way for the platforms to really deal with gullibility and propaganda without making the problem worse and they have no real incentive to either. The cure (censorship, most likely) will be worse than the disease.

The platforms will make a valiant effort to solve the problem in the way which is most politically expeditious for them. Not in a way that solves the problem.

The effects of this frankly terrifies me. Way more than Russian psyops campaigns running mommyblogger tweets.

"First, do no harm" doesnt just apply to doctors.

Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 15, 2021 @05:34AM (#27842905)
> no way for the platforms to really deal with gullibility and propaganda without making the problem worse

These are uncharted waters. I’d be wary of mistaking such hypotheses for absolute truths.

When mass journalism arrived we had yellow journalism. Journalistic standards arose, people chose their papers, and while it wasn’t a monotonic rise to goodness, what followed was better than what was.

I don’t know what the Internet will look like in a few years. But I’m fairly confident it won’t be laissez faire.

Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by pydry on Thursday July 15, 2021 @05:39AM (#27842925)
They're not that uncharted. It's why the first amendment exists.

I'm fairly confident it won't be laissez faire in the future either. That's coz there's a consolidation of media platforms and a wave of populist authoritarianism sweeping the world, not coz censorship ever fixed anything.

Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by krageon on Thursday July 15, 2021 @06:41AM (#27843297)
> It's why the first amendment exists.

A. Let's not mince words, it hasn't done the US any favours.

B. The world is bigger than just the US, so I would say that while you may think it's not uncharted it is definitely not solved (and can therefore be called uncharted enough).

Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by prepend on Thursday July 15, 2021 @07:29AM (#27843543)
> A. Let's not mince words, it hasn't done the US any favours.

It’s done phenomenal favors for centuries. Aside from freedom of speech being very effective for growth in ideas and innovation, it’s prevented National religions, limited press interference, limited censorship.

It’s odd to even hear the idea that it’s a bad thing.

Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by sokoloff on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:07AM (#27844206)
A lot of people prefer stronger government restrictions on certain speech. I don’t “get it” either, but I find a lot of my European colleagues prefer their system over the US system, about as equally strongly as I prefer the US system.
Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by Apocryphon on Thursday July 15, 2021 @10:02AM (#27844822)
It’s pretty understandable given Europe’s history with inflammatory speech leading to continental war, a process which has been repeating itself ever since the invention of the printing press.
Re:Google engineer who criticized company in viral comics on... by gunapologist99 on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:31AM (#27844434)
> It’s odd to even hear the idea that it’s a bad thing.

And strikingly illiberal, although both liberals and libertarians tend to agree on most matters of free speech.

For decades, liberals have fought for more freedom of speech, even in grotesque situations[0], and now we throw it all away, because we're suddenly winning?

0. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-em-defends-kkks-rig...