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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @12:27PM (#27834905)
You're assuming a causal relationship when the claim is correlational. The claim is not that because of a person's ethnicity that person will commit crimes at a certain rate, the claim is that you can make a good guess about criminality based on ethnicity. That is to say, there is a correlation. Which is unambiguously true--just look up the numbers. Only takes a moment.

In either case, whether it's racist or not is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by user-the-name on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:55PM (#27838914)
> the claim is that you can make a good guess about criminality based on ethnicity

Yes. That is the claim that is racist.

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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:24PM (#27839219)
It is empirically true. It is, of course, possible for things to be both true and racist, for some definition of racist.
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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by user-the-name on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:34PM (#27839306)
The fact that you just stop the train of thought there is the racist part.
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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @10:17PM (#27840790)
What would be the non-racist thing to do?
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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by user-the-name on Thursday July 15, 2021 @03:46AM (#27842335)
Actually look for the real factors beyond "ethnicity".
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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by NoImmatureAdHom on Thursday July 15, 2021 @10:56AM (#27845499)
My honest read here, and I really wish to emphasize that this is honest feedback and not an attempt to put you down, is that you don't have a solid grasp of causation vs. correlation.

I appreciate you engaging. It's fun and important to talk about stuff like this.

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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan by user-the-name on Friday July 16, 2021 @06:36AM (#27854813)
My point is literally that you need to think harder about causation vs. correlation here.

Criminality might correlate with ethnicity. Assuming this means causality is the thing that is racist.

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