Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by user-the-name on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @12:17PM
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No, it is the question that is racist. The assumption that because of your ethnicity, you would have some kind of specific level of criminality. That is extremely racist.
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Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @12:27PM
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You're assuming a causal relationship when the claim is correlational. The claim is not that because of a person's ethnicity that person will commit crimes at a certain rate, the claim is that you can make a good guess about criminality based on ethnicity. That is to say, there is a correlation. Which is unambiguously true--just look up the numbers. Only takes a moment.
In either case, whether it's racist or not is irrelevant to the issue at hand.
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by user-the-name on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:55PM
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> the claim is that you can make a good guess about criminality based on ethnicity
Yes. That is the claim that is racist.
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:24PM
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It is empirically true. It is, of course, possible for things to be both true and racist, for some definition of racist.
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by user-the-name on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:34PM
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The fact that you just stop the train of thought there is the racist part.
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by NoImmatureAdHom on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @10:17PM
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What would be the non-racist thing to do?
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by user-the-name on Thursday July 15, 2021 @03:46AM
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Actually look for the real factors beyond "ethnicity".
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by NoImmatureAdHom on Thursday July 15, 2021 @10:56AM
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My honest read here, and I really wish to emphasize that this is honest feedback and not an attempt to put you down, is that you don't have a solid grasp of causation vs. correlation.
I appreciate you engaging. It's fun and important to talk about stuff like this.
Re:Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan
by user-the-name on Friday July 16, 2021 @06:36AM
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My point is literally that you need to think harder about causation vs. correlation here.
Criminality might correlate with ethnicity. Assuming this means causality is the thing that is racist.